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I want to make something clear before I get flamed: I played Eve in 2008. I left because I was bored and it wasn't as involving as I thought. I had little hope for ED after the mess that was First Encounters. After watching the This Is Eve 2014 trailer I had to admit CCP know how to do marketing, Frontier have a long way to go to understand how to market their own game (the launch trailer is woeful).
The point(s) I want to make are these:
- ED is not so different in terms of launch/ early development/ woes/ suggestions/ gankers as Eve was (yes, they're different games, that's not in dispute here)
- this is an evolving game, it'll never reach nirvana, and that's a good thing
- would it help forum users if Frontier said openly and transparently (there's been little of that kind of comms) that they have a 5/ 10yr plan (like Bungie and Destiny, but no need for a DETAILED roadmap)
- If you were a new player, seriously how would you react to seeing some of the posts here. I really think sometimes reading the vitriol that we turn away people from interacting with this community. The whole "billionaire" thing has become quite a petty joke. How many profited vs the amount of players ? What's the likelihood of ever running into them ? Please, sometimes the term "get a grip" applies and this is one of them.
I am a child of the original but have no rose tinted nostalgic bias towards this game. I've played games for 30 odd years across platforms and I bought into Eve again after that 2014 trailer but gave it up very quickly once i started playing ED, and I was a big detractor of this game. I seriously thought Braben was deluded and trading on the past.
It's not perfect. But I get immense pleasure from playing what has been developed so far.
When I read about people crashing into stations I laugh because all the tools and guidance is there in the HUD. It was there in 1984, and I didn't have a step by step manual then.
I do trading, hunting, scouting. I run a Cobra only and already have enough for bigger but enjoy what I have and what I do. Every night is an adventure. My first rare goods run was without shields or weapons to max the distance out the FSD. I had 6% hull at the end of 150ly and it felt GREAT.
Churchill said "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." (It wasn't Braben who created that saying!)
That's how I see ED.
This to me is a first step. But Frontier HAVE to lead us openly on that journey. They HAVE to be transparent and also realise they need the resources and technical implementation. This is a personal opinion but the Instance universe is so very wrong for this game and shows up the limitations of Frontier's own abilities. But I'm here for the journey and I hope to see you out there too. My CMDR name is the same as my forum name.
If you can long haul rare goods, then go with this for the long haul too.
Ps: trust me when I say having a whiskey on a rare haul is great for the bravado and those high speed station entries
I want to make something clear before I get flamed: I played Eve in 2008. I left because I was bored and it wasn't as involving as I thought. I had little hope for ED after the mess that was First Encounters. After watching the This Is Eve 2014 trailer I had to admit CCP know how to do marketing, Frontier have a long way to go to understand how to market their own game (the launch trailer is woeful).
The point(s) I want to make are these:
- ED is not so different in terms of launch/ early development/ woes/ suggestions/ gankers as Eve was (yes, they're different games, that's not in dispute here)
- this is an evolving game, it'll never reach nirvana, and that's a good thing
- would it help forum users if Frontier said openly and transparently (there's been little of that kind of comms) that they have a 5/ 10yr plan (like Bungie and Destiny, but no need for a DETAILED roadmap)
- If you were a new player, seriously how would you react to seeing some of the posts here. I really think sometimes reading the vitriol that we turn away people from interacting with this community. The whole "billionaire" thing has become quite a petty joke. How many profited vs the amount of players ? What's the likelihood of ever running into them ? Please, sometimes the term "get a grip" applies and this is one of them.
I am a child of the original but have no rose tinted nostalgic bias towards this game. I've played games for 30 odd years across platforms and I bought into Eve again after that 2014 trailer but gave it up very quickly once i started playing ED, and I was a big detractor of this game. I seriously thought Braben was deluded and trading on the past.
It's not perfect. But I get immense pleasure from playing what has been developed so far.
When I read about people crashing into stations I laugh because all the tools and guidance is there in the HUD. It was there in 1984, and I didn't have a step by step manual then.
I do trading, hunting, scouting. I run a Cobra only and already have enough for bigger but enjoy what I have and what I do. Every night is an adventure. My first rare goods run was without shields or weapons to max the distance out the FSD. I had 6% hull at the end of 150ly and it felt GREAT.
Churchill said "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." (It wasn't Braben who created that saying!)
That's how I see ED.
This to me is a first step. But Frontier HAVE to lead us openly on that journey. They HAVE to be transparent and also realise they need the resources and technical implementation. This is a personal opinion but the Instance universe is so very wrong for this game and shows up the limitations of Frontier's own abilities. But I'm here for the journey and I hope to see you out there too. My CMDR name is the same as my forum name.
If you can long haul rare goods, then go with this for the long haul too.
Ps: trust me when I say having a whiskey on a rare haul is great for the bravado and those high speed station entries
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