I'm a midget when I wear my DK2

[Katkon]

I haven't figured out how to solve for my impossibly small body in the DK2. I cam across a post on a Valve forum wherein the poster suggested that The IPD needs to be severely down scaled for the commander's body and the ship to be properly scaled. Others piled on and agreed that reducing IPD by 3-4mm tends to work. Seems like an odd solution. But I do feel like a midget with a giant's head in the cockpit of my FDL.

Anyone else experience the same? Anyone have a solution?

 

[Katkon]

Update: after a bit more searching on this forum, I found 2 possible suggestions. Reduce IPD down to 55mm and/or reduce your actual height in the config tool. Reducing my height from the real 188cm to a suggested 150cm did change scale/proportion for me. I feel like my head position, body, arm and leg length are all in proportion.... for someone 150cm tall. While I still look like a child, the scale feels right for someone that small/tall.

Changing IDP didn't do much for me, other than make everything more blurry. Maybe... Just maybe.... I got a bit chunkier, but I was still just 150cm tall. I didn't try to adjust IPD down to 55mm and leave my real height alone - as the blurry look would make that a no-go anyway.

 

[Ryder35]

I get the same thing but have got used to it. Partly I think it is just how someone who lives in zero g would look but I do think there is something wrong with the scale as well. Devs have chimed in in the past and said scale is fine, also other commanders seem to think it is ok so who knows.

 

[777Driver]

Update: after a bit more searching on this forum, I found 2 possible suggestions. Reduce IPD down to 55mm and/or reduce your actual height in the config tool. Reducing my height from the real 188cm to a suggested 150cm did change scale/proportion for me. I feel like my head position, body, arm and leg length are all in proportion.... for someone 150cm tall. While I still look like a child, the scale feels right for someone that small/tall.

Changing IDP didn't do much for me, other than make everything more blurry. Maybe... Just maybe.... I got a bit chunkier, but I was still just 150cm tall. I didn't try to adjust IPD down to 55mm and leave my real height alone - as the blurry look would make that a no-go anyway.

Only thing that worked for me and others was to set IPD down to 55 (I have to change it back for other games) You have to do a few other things in a config file when reducing the IPD, am not at home, will PM you the link to the instructions later.

 

[CMDR Holycow]

The IPD change is a band-aid that makes a TINY difference, but then introduces other issues. The problem is that the pilot model is a 5'6" guy weighing in at 130 lbs. There is no change you can make or setting you can set that will make the pilot and his chair feel like a normal size man.

 

[777Driver]

The IPD change is a band-aid that makes a TINY difference, but then introduces other issues. The problem is that the pilot model is a 5'6" guy weighing in at 130 lbs. There is no change you can make or setting you can set that will make the pilot and his chair feel like a normal size man.

I can say for sure the difference is not tiny. Am sure it must vary for each user, for me the difference is between a child's body & a man's body,sitting in a tiny chair or a chair that is the same size as my range rover seat, same deal with the scale of the ships and structures.

It should be noted that simply changing IPD to 55 doesn't work, you have to follow some steps over on the oculus forum.

Edit - I can't find the link to the post on the OC forum. Basically you need to browse to C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Local\Oculus - backup and manually edit profileDB.json with a notepad. Unfortunately the correct numbers are on my home PC 3000 miles away :/

The difference for me was like night and day, same deal for many others

 

[Katkon]

Thanks for the suggestions chaps.

I found the above-mentioned Oculus file as well as the settings file for ED that some suggested editing with the same IPD as found in the Oculus file. I tried 68mm and 55mm in both, and also played with my in-game height of 150cm vs 188cm. I ensured that IPD in both the Elite/FD settings file and Oculus files were identical (they weren't when I first look at the Elite settings file!)

My findings are that:
* No matter what combination I use, I'm smaller in-game than 6 feet, by quite a margin. My in-game avatar is a little guy, and not the 183cm (or 6ft) that I've seen suggested as the size of the character model. Unless of course VR is playing tricks on my mind.
* Interestingly, entering my size of 188cm AND IPD of 55mm yields almost identical results to entering 150cm AND IPD of 68mm. My avatar and scale of the cockpit are virtually identical. I MIGHT give a very, very slight edge to 188cm and 55mm IPD on the scale front, but it's a couple of percent at most. However, IPD of 55mm makes the world blurrier for me, so I prefer entering 150cm height and my "real" IPD of 68mm

Unless there are other settings I'm supposed to play with to get my character to truly look like he's 6 feet tall, I'd have to conclude that we'll be a bit smaller in the future. Note: I think 150cm and 68mm IPD is very playable - it's certainly nowhere near as bad as the height of 188cm and IPD of 68mm (real life settings) I tried before - that really made me feel small.

 

[CMDR Holycow]

Thanks for the suggestions chaps.

I found the above-mentioned Oculus file as well as the settings file for ED that some suggested editing with the same IPD as found in the Oculus file. I tried 68mm and 55mm in both, and also played with my in-game height of 150cm vs 188cm. I ensured that IPD in both the Elite/FD settings file and Oculus files were identical (they weren't when I first look at the Elite settings file!)

My findings are that:
* No matter what combination I use, I'm smaller in-game than 6 feet, by quite a margin. My in-game avatar is a little guy, and not the 183cm (or 6ft) that I've seen suggested as the size of the character model. Unless of course VR is playing tricks on my mind.
* Interestingly, entering my size of 188cm AND IPD of 55mm yields almost identical results to entering 150cm AND IPD of 68mm. My avatar and scale of the cockpit are virtually identical. I MIGHT give a very, very slight edge to 188cm and 55mm IPD on the scale front, but it's a couple of percent at most. However, IPD of 55mm makes the world blurrier for me, so I prefer entering 150cm height and my "real" IPD of 68mm

Unless there are other settings I'm supposed to play with to get my character to truly look like he's 6 feet tall, I'd have to conclude that we'll be a bit smaller in the future. Note: I think 150cm and 68mm IPD is very playable - it's certainly nowhere near as bad as the height of 188cm and IPD of 68mm (real life settings) I tried before - that really made me feel small.

Nope, you pretty much got it right. I don't think there is anything in ED that takes your "height" measurement from the oculus software, to scale the model accordingly. It just isn't there. In ED, the camera is just "placed" where a head would be. The body you see when you look down is nothing more than something modeled into the cockpit seat. The body isn't dynamic.

 

[Zephyriel]

You need to lower the IPD in your Oculus config utility. It doesn't make a small difference ; it makes ALL the difference, since it does effectively change the scale of the world around you, by modifying the distance between the two eyes of the character you're incarnating.

 

[Katkon]

You need to lower the IPD in your Oculus config utility. It doesn't make a small difference ; it makes ALL the difference, since it does effectively change the scale of the world around you, by modifying the distance between the two eyes of the character you're incarnating.

I did and it made no discernible difference. As mentioned above I got basically the same result when using height of 188cm and IPD of 55mm as when using height of 150cm and IPD of 68mm, with slightly superior image quality for the latter. Using height of 150cm and IPD of 55mm didn't change much vs height of 188cm and same IPD. I don't know why this is, but it just is! Maybe - just maybe - I got a teeny tiny bit chunkier with an IPD of 55mm, but not by much at all.

In summary, for me the answer is to adjust height not IPD.

 

[Ramjet]

Might be an obvious question, but are you a midget/dwarf when Not wearing the dk2 ? cause that may explain it.

 

[Yololo69]

Katkon, I can see a real noticeable size difference using just the Desktop configuration application of Oculus, the "blue" one with the desk, the can and pyramid of cards, if I change ignore my real IPD and play with it, minimized, or maximized. I can see that E.g. on the can itself which seems too small, or too big comparing a real drink can. Do you see a difference in this configuration application when playing with IPD value (not body size)?

Like said above, the body is modeled with a "standard" size and playing with IPD or your real body size will not change its size. It's hard-coded modeled But playing with IPD can scale the body, tricking your brain with fake IPD distance setting. Off course the whole game will also change (less or bigger) but the body can match if you find the good fake IPD value. This is the only real reference you have on the cockpit, so it's not important if the cockpit is bigger or smaller than it should he. The body will match, brain tricked, done

 

[JeffRyan]

You're a midget when you wear your DK2? You're lucky, I'm a midget ALL the time.