What do you clipper pilots use that single size 7 internal for? 7A shield gen? Big cargo? Party lounge?
Imp Clipper size 7 internal....
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That 7A fuel scoop has your name all over it. 
lol! Id love to see what a 7a fs is like. I bet it sucks up the whole sun! That's why we have brown dwarfs. Someone has hit them with a 7a fs!
I think it SHOULD be a class 6. I run a clipper personally and love it to bits. But there is a clear inbalance between it and the T7. The T7 is a PURE trader with very limited defensive capabilites that costs MORE than the clipper (10% discount in Patreus systems thank you) but can't carry as much. Where's the logic there?
For sure the T-7 never made sense. With it's specs it should be capable of carrying about 350T of cargo to make it worthwhile. Both the Clipper and the Python beat it in every way. The only reason to buy one is if you don't have the rank for a clipper and you use it to trade up to get a Python. Other than that it's useless unless you just enjoy punishing yourself.
It's kinda the same for all freighters. Between each and every trader and the next there is a strictly better multirole. Between the Hauler and the T6 is the strictly better Adder and Cobra. Between the T6 and T7 is the strictly better Asp. The T7 is just awful compared to the clipper and your only gonna be in the T9 until you can afford the Anaconda.
Pure combat has an unbroken ship path of Eagle>Viper>Vulture>FerDeLance with no multirole in between being notably better (Cobra/Viper is pretty close though)
But no such path exists for pure Traders.
I stayed in a Python to get my first Conda as you can find decent routes that pay more per ton than what you can find for the T-9. I was doing one hop routes that were getting 800k/trip and there even better ones out there now that you can get pretty close to 1 mil per round trip. I tried the T-9 for about 20 mins. and couldn't get out of it fast enough. Some guys love them, but it was just too slow for me - I always felt like a sitting duck.
This.
Alternatively, in a pure combat loadout if I can not afford a Size 7A shield, I equip a size 6 shield and size 7 SCB.
The answer is obviously to nerf the clipper then instead of buffing the type 7, right?
Why wouldn't you just downgrade to 7D? That's considerably cheaper than 6A at pretty much the same strength.
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For sure. That's the primary reason I don't fly mine very often anymore. They are decent for trading when your moving up and they are fun to fly, but I look at them as "Sunday drivers" for the most part once you've gotten to a Python.
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I disagree! The clipper is massive so why nerf it. The clipper is way bigger than the python so make it even less practical compared to it makes no sense imo
I have a cargo rack in mine. It's an essential part of my mining ship
I have a cargo rack in mine. It's an essential part of my mining ship
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Definitely not. As posted above, in the overall context of comparative ship design it would seem more likely that the T-7 should be able to carry more cargo, probably 350T seems about right.
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Argued many times. The Python has to be a Tardus in disguise. 284T of max cargo space and can land at an outpost. You can go in circles all night comparing the Clipper, T-7 and the Python - but it's already been done many times.
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What's funny to me, is a Clipper with 7a shield and 4 A boosters has 550 MJ. The Courier with a 3A shield and 4 boosters is 602. I don't understand why the smaller Imperial ship would have better shields. A Python with 4 boosters is about 727.
Sorry, I'm not trying to derail this thread into a which-ship-has-better-shields discussion.
Sorry, I'm not trying to derail this thread into a which-ship-has-better-shields discussion.
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Anecdotal evidence but i feel my C7 shield generator is better than the B6 I had before even though the difference is small. What is not small is the Optimal mass for each class. Class 6 is 540T which is under the Clipper mass. Class 7 is 1040T, way above it. Now the question is if there is a bonus due to that difference, like with thrusters.
Umm the Type 7 costs 17mil without any discount and the Clipper costs 22mil without any discounts, even with discounts the Clipper still costs more than the Type 7, so saying the Type 7 costs more is just flat out wrong, also the Type 7 while it does not carry as much as a Clipper can jump considerably further per jump, and that's is what trade ships do best, get from point A to B in the shortest possible time, except for the Type 9 that seems to be more geared towards bulk trading over long hauls.
Anyways back to the OP's question, I personally either have a class 7 shield in it, a 128t cargo rack or for the rare times I want to be able to go on a 600ly trip without refueling I use a 128t fuel tank.
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For shields only hull mass matter, so both class 6 and class 7 shields have optimal mass higher than mass ot the clipper.
Also with 3 boosters you get additional ~70mj with 7A compared to 6A. It is ~15%. For ~35m price difference. IMO you should buy 7A only if you have a lot of spare credits...
Also with 3 boosters you get additional ~70mj with 7A compared to 6A. It is ~15%. For ~35m price difference. IMO you should buy 7A only if you have a lot of spare credits...
That's pretty exaggarating. With the discount, the Type 7 is just very slightly cheaper than the Clipper, and the jumprange difference is also negligible. 17.32 vs 17.36 fully laden jump range? That's not even worth writing about.