Important Thargoid Game Content Has been removed!

jimaras

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Hi Sally @sallymorganmoore and Happy New Year! I would like to stress how important is content-wise for AX fighters to be able to have again permanent ax mission signals when we get missions to "kill a Basi or a Hydra" and so on. This allows us, with a help of a wing friend, to redrop on signal and generate new goid of same variant as the mission. So I can make Double Hydras OR Triple Hydra instance that way. Or 10 Basi. Captain Muqqu did 20dusa solo 15 hours fight! That content you don’t find in ANY game. The potential is so huge and the gameplay content infinite. Not even close to an AXCZ where you have to wait for 1-2 hours to get the big variant and if its more than 1 wing will probably bug. Multigoid generation at mission signals has a tremendous potential for players and even streamers when they get to know it. There is not limit to what you can make and it is fast in instance creation.
"I wanna fight 3 medusas, Solo or with friends?" I get a Medusa mission and in 5min I am ready to go. That was the good thing with AX mission signals which are now only availavle in Legacy Horizons. Below I attach a youtube link of me doing Tridra, a fight which now is impossible to recreate. You may know others too Like EuanAB doing 8dra solo.

Right now the thargoid missions come with comparably less rewards. They offer 1 G5 material at best and 10-20 mil reward for like 5Hydras?????
Also the top variant you can have is Double Hydra which is ok for most people, but some people want more. And many people are taken aback by the fact that if you have more than one wing in a AX CZ, the progress will definitely bug. We are forced to do redrops etc and still many issues. Bringing back the permanent mission signals offers so much more flexibility, more content and simplicity!

Another great potential for content is feeding goids with meta alloys. Before U14 if you were hyperdicted and droped meta alloys to the goids, you would get a new clops for each goid present. Nowadays we cant do that cause the goids aggro immediately and the process cant be done. But it would be nice to also keep hyperdiction in other areas too where the goids dont aggro by default, they only scan you. And event better, meta alloy feeding to leed to also higher variants poping in.

Thank you in advance and congrats for your promotion!

Three Hydra Fight
6 Medusa Fight
20 Medusa Fight

Thargoid Meta Alloy feeding - Octagoid

Dimitris
 
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jimaras

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Ned Flandalorian said:
So report it as a bug, that's not the same thing as content being removed from the game.
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Can you just focus on the main issue and stop spamming my effort please? Its secondary to what i mention and mostly for "keeping it untouched" reasons. I did some editing but please dont try to find "holes" in peoples' post, ignoring the main issue. Main thing here is the permanent ax mission signals which is of high importance to gameplay. So if you have something to say about this please do. Dont spam.
 
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Coehoorn said:
Did you really just tag a CM to tell them that they should bring back exploits so you can farm credits with your buddies easier?
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No its not farming credits. I got 60 b, I dont need credits. These fights are great! Did you bother see the videos? And its not exploit something you need a lot of training to create, run and kill. Exploit is something you get easy. These fights take hours to complete. The guy with 20 dusas did 15 hours. An instance with 6 pilots and 6 medusas needs creazy amount of management. People who wanna gib, they can just go 20 people in a classic nhhs and find any goid and gib.
 
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jimaras

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Northpin said:
it's 9 hours, 15 kills
and it's a rather hilarious (but still impressive) proof of the bug/exploit
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Its nice bug/exploit! Just like the HGE farming, or gauss free self destruct reloads! Some bugs add content and make the game better! Obviously your aren't ax pilot so you dont know whats involved. Cause multigoids is only fun. Thanks anyways for your time, but mostly I wanted to write something to CM, not discuss about it! Cause I cant start conversation with her.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
jimaras said:
Thanks anyways for your time, but mostly I wanted to write something to CM, not discuss about it! Cause I cant start conversation with her.
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If you don't want public comments, don't post in public - it's that easy.
As for starting a conversation - you can send a DM to anyone with a forum account. Yes, that includes the CMs. At least for me. Of course, they (again, like everybody else) aren't obliged to answer (or even read) it.

As for your original post: quite apart from the issue, its readability would be greatly improved if you were writing in full sentences, using full words. There is no character limit here on the forums, this isn't .

Regarding your issue: so, with U14, the live game universe changed. This may (ok, who am I fooling...) include the introduction of new bugs and also should include the removal of old bugs and exploits. But in any case, it changed - and one of, if not the, main change was the behaviour of the Thargoids, especially those Thargoids you will encounter in the war zone. If you want to continue in the old ways, you can still play in Legacy, that's what it's for. But if you want to play in Live, you'll have to move with the changes in the background of the Galaxy. If you think that your observation describes a new bug, you'd be better off with submitting a bug report (one for each bug) and listing them in the U14 thread over in the news section. Also, tagging Sally over there (together with the bug report) is more likely to elicit some form of response.
 

jimaras

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Ashnak said:
If you don't want public comments, don't post in public - it's that easy.
As for starting a conversation - you can send a DM to anyone with a forum account. Yes, that includes the CMs. At least for me. Of course, they (again, like everybody else) aren't obliged to answer (or even read) it.
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How can I send a DM? I only find a choice for conversation. Thanks in advance!
 

jimaras

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Ashnak said:
Regarding your issue: so, with U14, the live game universe changed. This may (ok, who am I fooling...) include the introduction of new bugs and also should include the removal of old bugs and exploits. But in any case, it changed - and one of, if not the, main change was the behaviour of the Thargoids, especially those Thargoids you will encounter in the war zone. If you want to continue in the old ways, you can still play in Legacy, that's what it's for. But if you want to play in Live, you'll have to move with the changes in the background of the Galaxy. If you think that your observation describes a new bug, you'd be better off with submitting a bug report (one for each bug) and listing them in the U14 thread over in the news section. Also, tagging Sally over there (together with the bug report) is more likely to elicit some form of response.
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The main bug of U14 is the instancing bug. In ax czs you cant have more than one wing of people. If more come in, or you try to add/remore wing mates, instance 90% bugs. Many people just continue fight cause they dont know what a ax cz is and they think fighting non stop scouts is a norm. But the instancing issue is as old as the game itself, so I dont think a new bug report will help.
 

Coehoorn

Coehoorn
jimaras said:
No its not farming credits. I got 60 b, I dont need credits. These fights are great! Did you bother see the videos? And its not exploit something you need a lot of training to create, run and kill. Exploit is something you get easy. These fights take hours to complete. The guy with 20 dusas did 15 hours. An instance with 6 pilots and 6 medusas needs creazy amount of management. People who wanna gib, they can just go 20 people in a classic nhhs and find any goid and gib.
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I'm not saying it's easy or unimpressive, but it doesn't work together with the new Thargoid BGS. Things like that would influence the rate at which the war progresses. You'll have to get used to the new ways, I think. They're trying to balance the whole system out to make it a good experience for everyone - this won't be possible when there are ways to summon interceptors on demand, et cetera.
 

jimaras

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Coehoorn said:
I'm not saying it's easy or unimpressive, but it doesn't work together with the new Thargoid BGS. Things like that would influence the rate at which the war progresses. You'll have to get used to the new ways, I think. They're trying to balance the whole system out to make it a good experience for everyone - this won't be possible when there are ways to summon interceptors on demand, et cetera.
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The problem is that new system still causes huge frustration to people and most good players give up. At least the multigoid choice I mentioned is bug free cause the instance is made initially, there is no progress bar and the content is limitless. No frustration. People happy. So until they fix it , there is a good solution that works now and can keep people warm.
 

jimaras

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Or make it simpler: Until CZs are fixed, make better Distress Signals where you can get more and better variants per reload.There are many easy to do solutions that won’t bug.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
jimaras said:
How can I send a DM? I only find a choice for conversation. Thanks in advance!
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That's what the forum SW calls it... top right, next to your Avatar symbol, there's an Envelope symbol. "Start Conversation" gets you to the DM form, entering "sallym" already autocompletes to the the CM you mentioned.
I'll send you a test DM that'll get you to the right screen if you follow the popup :)
 

jimaras

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Ashnak said:
That's what the forum SW calls it... top right, next to your Avatar symbol, there's an Envelope symbol. "Start Conversation" gets you to the DM form, entering "sallym" already autocompletes to the the CM you mentioned.
I'll send you a test DM that'll get you to the right screen if you follow the popup :)
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Yeah that’s what I did first. It seems she has blocked it for her!
 

Northpin

Northpin
jimaras said:
Just like the HGE farming
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no, it's not like it - HGEs have a timer (you cannot relog in the same hge for hours)
and there is no simple and fast relog in a HGE - it's a quit to desktop, which adds to the timer and drastically reduces the amount of times the HGE can be farmed
anyway, i wouldnt mind if FD would fix this

jimaras said:
or gauss free self destruct reloads!
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this should definitely be a priority fix

jimaras said:
How can I send a DM? I only find a choice for conversation.
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yes, that's it - conversation!

jimaras said:
Yeah that’s what I did first. It seems she has blocked it for her!
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well, that's understandable.
In particular - winter holidays, in general - guess way too many people are bugging her
 

bangermsuk

bangermsuk
even when she wasn;t feeling well, they constantly bug her for updates on here and twitter, it not acceptable to message a dm constantly for a game fix. it just bloody rude imo and there should be a timed limit ban on the person who keeps do it.
 
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