In a world made of diamonds, diamonds are worthless

[Powderpanic]

Now that anyone who can bear to grind long enough will be guaranteed a god roll, it makes them entirely worthless.

Now I am not complaining that the new rolls will be better than the best of the legacy rolls, I mean that is basic common sense.
To have not done this would have been one of the stupidest moves ever in a PVP game but hey, Score 1 to FDEV.

BUT.

Just remove the grind, its not fun or exciting or even barely emergent game play.

No one can pirate the mats, they cannot be transferred to friends, you cannot even get them by exploding a player. They are just grind.

Why not just remove the grind and give the God roll specs to all modules and then focus on actually starting to balance this game?

People do not like grind and while I am sure some of the DBDF will pipe up saying they LOVE the grind! I think pretty much everyone else will tell you it is not fun and its a time sink that required Netflix to make ie passable.

Come on FDEV do your game a solid, replace grind with content and just give everyone what they want.

 

[Whitehair]

I live for the grind. Diamonds are the best for grinding.

Edit:
If you have any diamonds over, I'll take them off your hands!

 

[Aashenfox]

Hm...you know we could just force everyone to fly a stock Cobra and play like it's 1984!

 

[Achilles7]

Now that anyone who can bear to grind long enough will be guaranteed a god roll, it makes them entirely worthless.

Now I am not complaining that the new rolls will be better than the best of the legacy rolls, I mean that is basic common sense.
To have not done this would have been one of the stupidest moves ever in a PVP game but hey, Score 1 to FDEV.

BUT.

Just remove the grind, its not fun or exciting or even barely emergent game play.

No one can pirate the mats, they cannot be transferred to friends, you cannot even get them by exploding a player. They are just grind.

Why not just remove the grind and give the God roll specs to all modules and then focus on actually starting to balance this game?

People do not like grind and while I am sure some of the DBDF will pipe up saying they LOVE the grind! I think pretty much everyone else will tell you it is not fun and its a time sink that required Netflix to make ie passable.

Come on FDEV do your game a solid, replace grind with content and just give everyone what they want.

Yeah but....these go to eleven!

 

[Susanna]

Engineering was always going to end up being a second tier status quo... It was inevitable when it was introduced. You either stick with stock, or mod to tier 2 (aka grade 5 modded everything) and Swan around in ships identical to everyone else. I don't have an issue with it. It's a level playing field again [smile] The only surprise is it took this long to realise RNGineers wasn't going to be a winning proposition or should I say, before the PvP crowd got caught with their hands in the cookie jar...

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Diamonds are a girl's best friend. Just to give you something to think about.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Diamonds are a girl's best friend. Just to give you something to think about.

I'm reliably informed that a 40" gaming monitor, a mil-spec HOTAS and a high-end gaming PC are a girl's best friend. I guess it depends on the girl.

 

[Soon(TM)]

I think pretty much everyone else will tell you it is not fun and its a time sink that required Netflix to make it passable.
.

IMO this game should come with a free Netflix subscription.

Netflix and two monitors are the ONLY things that kept me playing as long as I did.

I couldn't even play ED in VR for long periods because I had no way to access my second monitor.

The content in this game is severely lacking, changing the existing balance and grind doesn't add more content, it keeps It the same, just different RNG results at the end of the grind.

Look at the thargoid content, it's just recycled existing content - what did damaged stations bring us?
Passenger missions and fetch and deliver missions...... That's new content right!

 

[Lateralus]

The only surprise is it took this long to realise RNGineers wasn't going to be a winning proposition or should I say, before the PvP crowd got caught with their hands in the cookie jar...

This was a only a fraction of the PvP community.. several player groups found out and kept it quiet (SDC even reported it early on and nothing was done). It only really made a difference in fights between engineered players anyway (so really PvPers only). It doesn't take god-rolls to completely out-class a non-engineered ship, just a few level 1-2 mods.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The good news is, in order to participate in PvP, you need quite a bit of engineering. For some this threshold prevented them from trying it out.

The new system lowers that threshold, which might mean more people will at least try their hand at PvP, some will stick around and grow the PvP community.

 

[Soon(TM)]

Hm...you know we could just force everyone to fly a stock Cobra and play like it's 1984!

No they couldn't, there's always the "Exit Game" option.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Passenger missions and fetch and deliver missions...... That's new content right!

Predictable as ever.

Days 1-7 of the evacuations missions: Wow! These are awesome!
Day 8-present: is that all?

 

[metatheurgist]

Just imagine he's wearing velvet hat.

 

[Soon(TM)]

Predictable as ever.

Days 1-7 of the evacuations missions: Wow! These are awesome!
Day 8-present: is that all?

Lol I don't recall anyone mentioning more passenger missions being "Awesome"

Maybe that was just you?

And what are passenger missions essentially?

Cargo missions with a different hat on.

And thus, the recycling of content goes on...

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Lol I don't recall anyone mentioning more passenger missions being "Awesome"

Maybe that was just you?

And what are passenger missions essentially?

Cargo missions with a different hat on.

And thus, the recycling of content goes on...

I didn't say 'passenger missions' I said 'evacuation missions' and yes, they were widely praised on these forums.

 

[Soon(TM)]

I didn't say 'passenger missions' I said 'evacuation missions' and yes, they were widely praised on these forums.

Were they?

Lol, I must have missed that!

So how are evacuation missions any different to passenger missons and cargo missions in functionality?

 

[Whitehair]

Were they?

Lol, I must have missed that!

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Were they?

Lol, I must have missed that!

So how are evacuation missions any different to passenger missons and cargo missions in functionality?

Have you ever done one? The damaged station interiors are a lot of fun, what with explosions battering you about and heat levels being critical.

It's not so much what you're doing (which is, yes, a straight A-B passenger run) it's the situation and scenery in which you're doing it.

 

[Soon(TM)]

Have you ever done one? The damaged station interiors are a lot of fun, what with explosions battering you about and heat levels being critical.

It's not so much what you're doing (which is, yes, a straight A-B passenger run) it's the situation and scenery in which you're doing it.

So immersion then.

ED needs more of that too!

 

[GreyAreaUK]

So immersion then.

ED needs more of that too!

Seriously, if you haven't tried one, do so - they're really good fun for a while. Bring heat sinks

In the early days of them in Open it was a fantastic atmosphere - loads of Commanders all cooperating* together. Some were actually acting as external ATCs, since ships leaving the stations tended to do so at speed. As an aside I can now boost my 'Conda through the slot with the best.


* well, apart from the usual lot.