In several thousand hours I have never free traded in a loop, only missions and mined, and I cannot make near the amount of expected profuits on Inara

Same thing for EDDB.

I go to the station listed and buy what it tells me to according to my cargo specs and everything, but I might not be able to buy the amount it tells me to, so I wait 10 minutes and when it resets the commodities I buy all I can but it is still not the amount I was expecting, so I realize at this rate in an hour I will not be able to buy enough commodities at6 either location in an hour of sitting there and letting the server tick, or by just continuing going back and forth in the loop for an hour./ As a matter of fact I will not even make in an hour what it says I should make on one round trip.

For example, it says that if I buy however many itens at station A, then sell them at station B, then buy whatever items there and return to sell them at station A it says I'll make 44 million per trip and 180 million per hour of steady trading. I made 500k on a round trip so might make 3-4 million per hour.

I have a good grasp of Inara, EDDB, and many other apps in my bookmarks and have used them for years to find places to look for mats and everything else, except for trading routes, I do not see how I can be misreading the numbers so badly.

What is the best way to trade using a 3rd party app, and which app?

Inara seems much more detailed than EDDB, I have used them both for years, but am new to loop trading, I either mined, did passenger missions, or cargo missions for Elite in trading. But this free trading is making me about a tenth if even that much in profits per run/hour that it says I should get.

Should I maybe try to scroll way down and shoot for less profits per run/hour and have a better chance of reaching the goals as there might bge far less players running those routes?

Should I buy what I can, make the jump to the next system and station and sell, buy there and come right back, or let the server tick for an hour for it to give me the max amount of commodities the buying station will buy?

Thank you.
 
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Make sure you filter by minimum quantity available in Inara as well. If you're going to repeat the loop a few times 5000 is a good base.

I've personally found that 2 way loops don't make as much money for the time as one way loops, generally due to the poor profit margin on the return trade vs the extra jump or two and the time it takes.

Optimal tends to be agronomic treatment or bauxite (you don't need to filter, just look for them at the top of the list) Both can be bought dead cheap, are in plentiful supply and sell for 25-27k per tonne to the right station.

A round trip with a full t9 load can generally be done in 10-15mins and will net you about 20m a load. Easiest money in the galaxy while watching Netflix.
 
I am using a Cutter with 696 tons of cargo space, I'll look for those items.

I like my Cutter because I can boost away from trouble. Thank you. I'll also check the minimums like you said.
 
If you have an engineered FSD and possibly the guardian FSD booster you can be looking in the 50ly range and have it only 1-2 jumps. Choose orbital stations only within 1000ls of the star.
 
Yeah, supply and demand is probably your issue. Even just using in game tools you can find some decent profits looking for high population extraction systems and starting from there. The benefit of not using EDDB or Inara of course is that you don't have everyone else messing up your profit margins.
 
I am using a Cutter with 696 tons of cargo space, I'll look for those items.

I like my Cutter because I can boost away from trouble. Thank you. I'll also check the minimums like you said.
The cutter also speeds up the approach and escape from the stations! Do you know the fast approch supercruise trick as well?
 
My goodness HMM, I did not realize the minumum was set to any, I set it to 5000 as you suggested and I can still work from one of the stations but the other stations have chaged, and the commodities listed have changed and there are a lot more avauilable to buy and sell. I think thast will help, and I'll also check on a one way run. Thanks again.
 
In solo, PVE, do I need to run with a shield? I submit to interdictions ands boost away, no issue there.
Probably not, but it depends how much attention you're paying. That autodock has a tendency to bump into things so a sheild can still be useful. One cutter rebuy can cost you the profits of one or two runs so it just depends on your playstyle.
 
The cutter also speeds up the approach and escape from the stations! Do you know the fast approch supercruise trick as well?
I did know the trick but forgot it long ago. I filled my hold, in a minute I will land and see how much profit I make on this short run. I can imagine I'll be blowing away the profits I made Platinum mining.

Woo hoo! I made 34.5 million with 1 jump from A-b, then made 2.3 million back from B-A.

I was getting bored mining again, so this trucking and trying to master profits, and eventually mastering my own searches within the game without 3rd party apps will have me fired up again. Thank you so jmu7ch for your help.
 
In solo PVE you don't even need to run a shield on a T9. In fact you may as well not run a shielded T9 in PVP for the good it'll do you...
I'm in a Cutter, but I imagine it might be tough ernough. But I can see even with a 6A shield (the smallest I can run in a Cutter I am still going to do very well, better than when mining Platinum.
 
It’s a good job, I like perfect landings in my T9 and as there are limited large pads in stations you tend to know where they are after a few hours. I use manual landing but auto take off and during take off I replot my route then flick back and take control of the ship boosting out of the slot :)
 
Inara was (still is ?) a bit slower than EDDB when it came to updating. Eventually, I dropped it completely for trading, and used EDDB instead, which I find faster and the filter works BEFORE searching, instead of after, leaving you with like 5 results.
There is also the fact those loops rarely take amount into account. More often then not, either supply or demand is low, and prices are affected.

A good commodities to watch out is agronomic treatment. There is probably always somewhere a good loop for it.

Good way to trades are usually CG (not that one, the max is something around 15K/t which is the bottom limit before I decide not to move). Some can get up to 30m/t which is good.

Otherwise I suggest the FC loading/unloading post. It's the shortest possible travel time, and you usually get good profit. Plus I like it better to work for real people than NPCs.
You can find their offer on a few discord/subreddit, PTN is probably the most active for that.
 
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