In the interest of accurate performance information

EdzUp

EdzUp
I am interested in getting Odyssey don't get me wrong but at present I'm on the fence as to whether or not it will actually even work satisfactorily on my Ryzen 7 laptop (horizons works perfectly).

To this end how does Odyssey run on your computer's (if you post please give us the specs of your PC (GPU (with ram), OS, Ram, resolution, with/without AMD FSR etc) at least this way we may get a more accurate representation than presentation videos using hand picked hardware :)

My laptop is https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06410523 this one 😉
 
Last edited:

hunvagy

hunvagy
I mean, you could go first then, because Ryzen 7 laptop is indicative of.. nothing. CPU + dedicated GPU? APU? If dedicated, what kind? RAM?

Anyway:

Ryzen 7 2700X
16GB DDR4
Gigabyte 2060 RTX Windforce

Runs like manure compared to EDH. 1080p Ultra keeps 60 mostly in stations, drops to 30 in big settlements, 21 in CZs. Unacceptable.
 

hunvagy

hunvagy
Ah a Vega 10 APU then :) Honestly, I'm not sure what kind of performance you could expect from that, but probably not as good as Horizons.
 

EdzUp

EdzUp
hunvagy said:
Ah a Vega 10 APU then :) Honestly, I'm not sure what kind of performance you could expect from that, but probably not as good as Horizons.
Click to expand...
Yeah I'm not expecting 60fps at all times but given that it shouldn't be rendering as much as if I was in space it should get close. I can land on planets and drive around in horizons already at a decent FPS :)
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
It is even tougher to give an honest answer than you may realise, if you read around the performance debates it is not entirely clear-cut what will work well or not.
Players with pretty old hardware are getting reasonable FPS, other with 3080 / 3090 claim abysmal FPS!

I'd be tempted to suggest you hold off buying until the next update... But leave the choice to your good self!
 

avow555

avow555
Do you know anyone locally that has Oddyssey that could run it on your PC?
Without actually trying it I would say it may be difficult to advise you unless someone has that exact spec lappy.
 

EdzUp

EdzUp
avow555 said:
Do you know anyone locally that has Oddyssey that could run it on your PC?
Without actually trying it I would say it may be difficult to advise you unless someone has that exact spec lappy.
Click to expand...
Given that some people have stated that it pushes the 3080 to breaking point whilst being not that much more detailed than horizons I would be inclined to not try it on my modest laptop. I'm just wondering from a more inquisitive stand point.
 

Deleted member 182079

D
Rat Catcher said:
It is even tougher to give an honest answer than you may realise, if you read around the performance debates it is not entirely clear-cut what will work well or not.
Players with pretty old hardware are getting reasonable FPS, other with 3080 / 3090 claim abysmal FPS!

I'd be tempted to suggest you hold off buying until the next update... But leave the choice to your good self!
Click to expand...
I would second this. Frontier haven't apparently really tried to optimise the game properly yet, instead they implemented a corner cutting "cheat" fix in the form of FSR which only really works (better if you have poor eye sight) from 1440p upwards - I play at that resolution and while it provides some extra frames, it looks awful so I switched it off again. Hopefully it's just to buy some time until the proper optimisation happens but given we're almost 3 months in it might take a while.

If you're "fine" with janky, uneven performance that regularly dips into the red zone fps counter-wise in areas that are key selling points of the DLC, I suggest you hold off.

If you have high tolerance thresholds regarding stuttery, laggy performance, by all means go for it. But the fact that running the game at either preset from Low to Ultra has little bearing on performance gains/losses (the only thing that really affects it is resolution) suggests the game is still deeply broken on a technical level. Running the game on Low quality settings gives you all the downsides of it looking like a game from the PS2 era, but without the benefit of significant performance boosts. It's simply not scalable at the moment.

(I will also add that the gameplay EDO adds to the main game isn't really worth paying the full price, still if you like that sort of stuff I'd probably wait for a sale regardless, and by then the game should hopefully be in better shape also)
 

EdzUp

EdzUp
ObiW said:
I would second this. Frontier haven't apparently really tried to optimise the game properly yet, instead they implemented a corner cutting "cheat" fix in the form of FSR which only really works (better if you have poor eye sight) from 1440p upwards - I play at that resolution and while it provides some extra frames, it looks awful so I switched it off again. Hopefully it's just to buy some time until the proper optimisation happens but given we're almost 3 months in it might take a while.

If you're "fine" with janky, uneven performance that regularly dips into the red zone fps counter-wise in areas that are key selling points of the DLC, I suggest you hold off.

If you have high tolerance thresholds regarding stuttery, laggy performance, by all means go for it. But the fact that running the game at either preset from Low to Ultra has little bearing on performance gains/losses (the only thing that really affects it is resolution) suggests the game is still deeply broken on a technical level. Running the game on Low quality settings gives you all the downsides of it looking like a game from the PS2 era, but without the benefit of significant performance boosts. It's simply not scalable at the moment.

(I will also add that the gameplay EDO adds to the main game isn't really worth paying the full price, still if you like that sort of stuff I'd probably wait for a sale regardless, and by then the game should hopefully be in better shape also)
Click to expand...
It's this sentiment that I share at the moment, for me looking at all the videos Odyssey doesn't add much to the game to be honest. For me personally I can already land on planets and explore settlements in a SRV. For me it just allows me to walk around in stations and buildings which isn't worth the performance hit tbh
 

Deleted member 182079

D
EdzUp said:
It's this sentiment that I share at the moment, for me looking at all the videos Odyssey doesn't add much to the game to be honest. For me personally I can already land on planets and explore settlements in a SRV. For me it just allows me to walk around in stations and buildings which isn't worth the performance hit tbh
Click to expand...
In an act of despair/desperation to hold on to my Elite-gaming-mojo I decided to wipe my main CMDR save and start from scratch (7 year old account, 10bn in assets, FC, everything unlocked, Admiral King, triple Elite yadda yadda) - because everything felt so pointless, more like a playground where you dip in and out of each separate activity, credits no longer mattered nor anything else. A bit like unlocking training mode in other games. While this was the case already to some extent with the Horizons ship/SRV content, I find it's much worse with EDO, because everything on-foot is ring fenced - mats, engineers, missions, ranks etc. It truly feels like an optional, tacked on DLC which is a shame.

Having said that - now that I started with a new CMDR save it's a bit more fun again, I try not to fall into the grind trap (various engineers have been unlocked but I haven't even bothered visiting them yet) and just wander around trying to make credits as they're finally meaning something again. Still, settlements and the concourses still feel very optional, I could basically ignore them entirely and it wouldn't affect my spaceship-flying game at all. I just dip into them now and then simply because why not.

I preordered EDO based on hopes and (empty) promises so I may as well get along with it for as much as I can, but would I buy the DLC today, knowing what it entails in all its glory/ugliness? Probably not. But it is subjective, and others seem to enjoy the DLC a lot more than I do.

PS - the walking around in stations/buildings is quite limited tbh - it gets old very quickly certainly the concourses. Settlements can be varied (in terms of their background - the design of the buildings themselves is very modular and once you visit a few you see the repetition, but I don't want to knock them too much - what I find worse is the lack of non-mission based interactivity at them) but the rough performance kills any immersion if you're sensitive to poor fps/frame pacing.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

CMDR ZerØ

C
Rat Catcher said:
It is even tougher to give an honest answer than you may realise, if you read around the performance debates it is not entirely clear-cut what will work well or not.
Players with pretty old hardware are getting reasonable FPS, other with 3080 / 3090 claim abysmal FPS!

I'd be tempted to suggest you hold off buying until the next update... But leave the choice to your good self!
Click to expand...
This. Trying to predict performance right now is an exercise in futility.
 

-Mashiro-

M
Here is what i experience.

I am running a 4K Screen on 2080Ti and I7-9700k machines.
Running FSR is still better than running Upscaling at x 0.5.

You can see the picture quality and FPS.

Normal with x 1.0 Upscale (Native 4K) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1njSr1GaJz71xL_dWRYn6ZIzleQ-aiI70/view?usp=sharing
Normal with x 0.5 Upscale (1080p upscale to 4K) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TSqscekYgCBgZcKciGc-2eQqSEQEr8IH/view?usp=sharing
AMD FSR Quality (1080p Upscale to 4k) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v3Nu1IiDb7mYtqnGY5jjiLisw6H3QQ_H/view?usp=sharing
AMD FSR Ultra Quality (1440 Upscale to 4k) https://drive.google.com/file/d/11JfquUHuIHw5UJuzTrnWR_z7b2zUIeT8/view?usp=sharing

The FPS is almost the same with Normal x 0.5 upscale and AMD FSR Quality which technically both are 1080 upscale to 4k.
 

Attachments

  • Display Setting.png
    Display Setting.png
    612.8 KB · Views: 97
Last edited:

Dionizio

Dionizio
i have 32gb ram, r7 1600af radeonr r 580 and the odyssey run ok on space, planets look very nice, but if i land on a planet the fps go down to 30 fps, at coriolis space stations it is like 25fps, sometimes less
 

CMDR Von Abrahart

CMDR Von Abrahart
B550M-A, 3060 RTX, 32GB Ram, R9, 1TB SSD, 2K res, 1.5 SS = 60 space, 40/45 settlements / concourse. I think the issues are CPU and code based - its not the cards that are the problem - its the code pumping the stuff to the card thats at issue.
 

EdzUp

EdzUp
Well like someone suggested in another post a reset of the Cmdr save does refresh the game someone and it does feel fun again so maybe it's grind tedium which is causing an issue along side Odyssey's problems.
 

Morbad

Morbad
EdzUp said:
Yeah I'm not expecting 60fps at all times but given that it shouldn't be rendering as much as if I was in space it should get close. I can land on planets and drive around in horizons already at a decent FPS :)
Click to expand...

Odyssey is pretty much universally slower than Horizons, by a wide margin, even when rendering scenes of similar complexity.

Your APU will probably handle space alright, if expectations are kept in check, but the planetary content will be rough.

dannysquid said:
The fact that people are getting such varied frame rates makes we wonder if there's a networking element to the frame rate issues.
Click to expand...

Not unless there are sufficient other CMDRs around. The game barely talks to Frontier otherwise.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom