Powerplay Instead of de-pledging every Cmdr with 0 Power Play Merits, Why not award everyone 100 or so merits just before the patch and avoid this altogether?

[Martin Schou]

There are players with a hundred weeks of continuous pledging. Resetting their counters because they happened to be out exploring at the wrong time certainly isn't a non-issue.

Tell you what - you promise to personally handle every single complaint about people getting ganked with no punishment for the ganker, filed by the people who don't get that PowerPlay makes them legal targets, and do it in a friendly, timely and professional manner, and I'm sure FDev will rethink this decision.

What's that? You don't want to get stuck explaining basic things to thousands of players who will be ing about getting ganked because they didn't realise the consequences of PowerPlay? Well, that's the reality that FDev is going to be facing post 2.4 if they don't depledge everyone who aren't active.

 

[Arkadi]

It's a two-edged blade.

* Unpledge all inactive: get complaints from those out exploring wanting to stay pledged for what ever reason.

* Do nothing: get complaints from people getting theire ships destroyed in powerplay. Oh wait. This is nothing new. People could have theire ships handed to them wrecked by other players pre 1.4 anytime... so... well let's rephrase: face complaints of players who complain that theire ships have gotten destroyed by other players AND the other player did NOT get a galaxy wide pilots federation bounty! Geee! Shock!!! I am getting sarcastic here ofc.

--> maybe there would be no problem at all if FDev would manage it to get a ingame message to the players in question that would inform them of the rule-changes and leave the decission of consequnce to the players (that would be to unpldedge or not).

In my opinion it is a total overreaction to simply unpldege all "inactive" powerplayers only becouse some newly implemented galaxy wide palyer killer bounty will not affect them...


EDIT: In my opinion all rights are on the side of those players who want to stay pledged to theire powers although they are out exploring. There is nothing that would justify this act of arbitratiness of forced unpldge (except of, "well there are some new rules, but they won't affect you" )

 

[Punished Mobius]

If someone doesn't play the game for months or leaves his power to go exploring I don't see why he should still be part of power play. These people don't participate. They decided to do something else.

Oh god forbid they betray us and do something else with their time. These traitors need to be punished! Take away their power play (ugh) pledges! That will show them...

 

[Gunnet]

Tell you what - you promise to personally handle every single complaint about people getting ganked with no punishment for the ganker, filed by the people who don't get that PowerPlay makes them legal targets, and do it in a friendly, timely and professional manner, and I'm sure FDev will rethink this decision.

What's that? You don't want to get stuck explaining basic things to thousands of players who will be ing about getting ganked because they didn't realise the consequences of PowerPlay? Well, that's the reality that FDev is going to be facing post 2.4 if they don't depledge everyone who aren't active.

People are already getting griefed, and some are presumably reporting it. I see no reason to suppose that 2.4 will result in a change in the volume of complaints, regardless of whether or not a mass unpledge occurs.

Remember that it's not becoming more dangerous to be pledged, it's (theoretically, but doubtfully in practice) becoming less dangerous to be unpledged.

 

[ROSS-128]

Pretty sure there is no technical reason why pledges are being purged, so the "give people free merits" misses the point. They could easily just keep the rolls the same, but FDev wants to clean the pledge rolls of inactive players and players who have retired from PP but forgot to unpledge. The easiest way to identify those players is that they don't have any merits.

Basically it's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of "won't". FDev is just doing some housecleaning, if you don't want to get swept up in it then either pick up a few token merits or just make a note to re-pledge after the patch.

 

[Siobhan]

There should definitely be some way for it to be more directly optional.

It is optional.
If you don't want to get de-pledged (and there's been a lot of warning) then do what you pledged to do and get some merits.
IMHO if you have 0 after a week you should be treated as in breach of contract and get a power bounty. Get their hunters after you for a bit.

I think getting un pledged without penalty is pretty damned lenient.

 

[Arkadi]

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If you don't want to get de-pledged (and there's been a lot of warning) then do what you pledged to do and get some merits.

where has there been a lot of warning in game?

 

[Siobhan]

where has there been a lot of warning in game?

It was in the forum and the newsletter.
And you still have 2days left...

 

[Arkadi]

It was in the forum and the newsletter.
And you still have 2days left...

Many people dont care about this fourm and the "newsletter". This is a game and all relevant data should be in the game and not outsitde in the internet.

Some people do care about theire pledge... regardless if they are at the time being actually participating in the merit grindig game. This is the same as if explorers who came home to the bubbel would lose all thiere exploration data, just becouse they are in the bubbel at this moment and not out in the black. Guess how happy they would be?!

 

[Gunnet]

It is optional.
If you don't want to get de-pledged (and there's been a lot of warning) then do what you pledged to do and get some merits.
IMHO if you have 0 after a week you should be treated as in breach of contract and get a power bounty. Get their hunters after you for a bit.

I think getting un pledged without penalty is pretty damned lenient.

I said directly optional, as in a box informing you of the changes and asking whether you wish to remain pledged. Explorers and people who are far away from their PCs can't earn a merit.

The notion of penalising players for not maintaining merits is laughable.

 

[Wylie28]

You clearly dont see why this is happening. With 2.4 being aligned to a power will mean there are no consequences for killing you during PVP. There are many people aligned to a power that do not want that for obvious reasons. But they cannot however leave the power without that power hunting them down. What frontier are doing are giving people a way out with no consequence. If you have zero merits then you are not harmed in any way by being removed. You only get the benefits of not being as tasty of a kill to other players. If you want to rejoin the power, rejoin right after 2.4. Nothing will change. You already have 0 merits.

 

[Arkadi]

You clearly dont see why this is happening. With 2.4 being aligned to a power will mean there are no consequences for killing you during PVP.

That is how it has been all the time. No change. Local bounties will still be issued as have always been. There just will be no galactic wide pilots-federation bounty in some cases. There will be a special ruleset when pvp-combat will be sanctioned by the new pf-bounty system. See link below.

There are many people aligned to a power that do not want that for obvious reasons. But they cannot however leave the power without that power hunting them down.

You can leave a power at any time without consequences. I have not read anything that this should be changed in 1.4. It only happens that NPC hunt the player if he is directly defecting to another power taking half of his merits with him. If you just leave the power there is no negative consequence what so ever.

What frontier are doing are giving people a way out with no consequence. If you have zero merits then you are not harmed in any way by being removed. You only get the benefits of not being as tasty of a kill to other players. If you want to rejoin the power, rejoin right after 2.4. Nothing will change. You already have 0 merits.

And again: players who take some pride into theire longtime pledging are harmed becouse they can no longer show off this "badge" of being pledged for a long time without interruption. The duration of pledge shows in the power tab.

It is always a pleasure to spread information. Here the link with official information of the rulechanges: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/374313-PFB-Ship-Rebuy-Penalty-and-Powerplay

I hope this makes things clearer, why some people are a bit upset.

It's not game breaking - it's just another stone thrown into the glass hous of powerplay - not that we powerplayer weren't used to all kinds of ignoring, deliberate non understanding and disregarding from all kind of forum posters and Frontier too. It's just another drop that makes the barrel overflow.

 

[bigity]

I think the best solution would be to make power play worth doing, so you don't have to worry about massive numbers of pledged CMDRs who do absolutely nothing PP related.