Interdictions any help welcome

[Zallibik]

So I've been playing since beta, and I'm still struggling to escape all interdictions (NPC) at best I can escape around 35% of them, I was just wondering if any of you uber commanders out there had any little tips that could help me increase my chances.

I use x55 rhino as control method.

and does the throttle play any part in interdictions ?

any help much appreciated

 

[DaveB]

Sometimes it's buggy as heck and you simply CAN'T get away. I'll be honest, most of the time I don't bother. I submit and fry the NPC.

 

[Alex Brentnall]

Unconfirmed gossip here:

I was told directional thrusters help.
I was told speed management helps (experiment to find out if full/nothing/blue is best, or a mixture).
I was told spinning helps as the person doing the interdiction needs to try and keep their orientation matched for best effect.

All unconfirmed.

 

[Thetele]

My experience is that speed is the king. If interdictor is faster than you he catch up to you and you will lose even if you perfectly line with vector. If you are faster than interdictor he can't start interdiction and if during interdiction you get faster than him he will always lose. More speed than other one -> BETTER. FDev said sometime ago that pip-management doesn't matter or being on blue zone.

 

[goemon]

Unconfirmed gossip here:

I was told directional thrusters help.
I was told speed management helps (experiment to find out if full/nothing/blue is best, or a mixture).
I was told spinning helps as the person doing the interdiction needs to try and keep their orientation matched for best effect.

All unconfirmed.

to quote the devs:

The size and class of the interdictor affect the range they work in, but all other things are equal, and the throttle plays no part.

i think, there has been even a statement more clear than that, along those lines of "neither pips nor throttle do play a role"... anyways - to OP: one of the worst things for me concerning the interdiction minigame is, that the outcome feels quite arbitrary. i have around 60% success interdicting, and around 70% success evading (if i try to evade), and i can't come up with why i suceed or fail in most cases.

 

[Zallibik]

to quote the devs:




i think, there has been even a statement more clear than that, along those lines of "neither pips nor throttle do play a role"... anyways - to OP: one of the worst things for me concerning the interdiction minigame is, that the outcome feels quite arbitrary. i have around 60% success interdicting, and around 70% success evading (if i try to evade), and i can't come up with why i suceed or fail in most cases.

thanks for that, I can't seem to understand why I'm failing so much, sometimes I'm almost 100% in the vector and I still get pulled

 

[Papa]

This is the only thing that ruins the game for me. I hope they do something. It's also breaking my X55! I can feel the creek every time I am instadicted. And even if I am close to winning, the last seconds I instant lose.... It just feels fake. I hope there are some tips we can do. But I lose 99% of the time and I try sooo hard to win.

I wish/hope 2.1 fixes all this.

 

[d8veh]

All the rules apply to PvP. I'm pretty sure that the results of PvE interdictions are pre-determined, i.e. if you do everything perfect, you'll still lose if that was the pre-determined result.

When I do Robigo runs, I've had as many as 6 interdictions in a row from the same NPC without winning the mini-game. On the seventh, I won easily without doing anything different. Normally it takes three attempts before I win. You'll see the blue bar going in your favour as if you're doing it right, then suddenly the thing shoots to the side where you can't get it, and your blue bar goes down to zero.

 

[Zallibik]

All the rules apply to PvP. I'm pretty sure that the results of PvE interdictions are pre-determined, i.e. if you do everything perfect, you'll still lose if that was the pre-determined result.

When I do Robigo runs, I've had as many as 6 interdictions in a row from the same NPC without winning the mini-game. On the seventh, I won easily without doing anything different. Normally it takes three attempts before I win. You'll see the blue bar going in your favour as if you're doing it right, then suddenly the thing shoots to the side where you can't get it, and your blue bar goes down to zero.

totally agree with this 100%

 

[DanTheMan]

I think the interdiction mini-game is totally buggy.
Many times I have watched my blue bars rapidly decrease while having the escape vector totally in my cross-hairs and 3 blue-circles agreeing my alignment.

It is a farcical RNG non-game as far as I can tell. I always just submit and run/escape now.

 

[Klab]

It is a bit buggy at times, but you can (with practice) anticipate which way the blue marker moves. It kinda sways left & right, up & down, a bit like a pendulum. Try to get ahead of it & it and be ready for the swing back in direction. It will feel easier. I win about 80% of NPC interdictions, some go on a very long time though. The 20% I lose feel impossible to win, as the blue marker whips across the screen way too fast to catch up. Gritty teeth and swearing at him also helps. Good luck CMDR!

 

[kryss]

I've found that reducing speed almost like your going to submit then powering it on helps - more so maybe when your trying to frameshift out.

 

[Doc Vamps]

Personally I find interdictions very buggy. You can have your target basically dead ahead, no moving around, easy to keep sight on him and it will still go from full win bar to immediate loss in a second or two.

I have tried various speed levels, differing power levels to systems, engines, you name it and it just seems to be random. Also, I have had the ships suddenly appear behind me and then it bugs out totally, I have to relog or sit there with an unending interdiction going on.

Just another thing they need to fix, like wings. Maybe when they finish adding new content they will actually get around to fixing some things...... I dont get my hopes up after a year + of this sorta thing going on though to be honest

 

[dutchy2000]

I got a 100% win rate against NPC interdictions, they are so laughably easy to evade or win when I am the interdictor its hilarious. I don't understand how people lose these things.

 

[Doc Vamps]

I think what you dont realise is it is buggy for some people. I used to never have a problem with interdictions or avoiding them. I know people who on their computer I NEVER have an issue. When I log into my account on their computer I have no end of troubles. It is not internet based issues, or how powerful the computer is. I have figured that much out at least. Now I know some people who sold their FSD interdictor and flew to another station and rebought it and suddenly the issues disapear. So, don't go saying it is rediculously easy and imply that others are inept with your comments. As I said, it is very BUGGY. When it works, it is simple and fun, when it is bugging out it is enough to make you want to smash your face into a wall.

PS, I am almost triple elite in this game, only a few % away from Exploration, I have played over 22 weeks game time according to the exploration statistics and I have gone through many stages of interdiction fixes and I wish they would make it harder when it is working fine, but while it is buggy, it is just annoying and we end up going and doing other things instead. It would be nice not to have to keep changing our plans because of the frustration. For example, Wings, I played solo for months becayuse it is broken, now I have to pay 10$ us a month to play with my friends in the game for a reliable VPN. I should not have to pay more for a feature via another company.

Fixing tthe bugs is what this is about for me and saving me money.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

What has vastly improved my interdiction experience is getting in a combat ship, fitting a FSD interdictor and interdicting NPCs. If you try it for a while from the other side, you get a much better idea of how interdictions work. You do also learn that some interdictions you are never going to win.
So go somewhere you don't mind being wanted and pirate for a while. Or if you want to stay clean, just interdict wanted ships.
Some pirates you are trying to interdict may also be trying to interdict you. These ones are good for learning from as you can try to make it easier for them, or harder, as you feel like.

 

[DaveB]

Limoncello is correct. The same rules apply to both sides of the interdiction whether its a player or an NPC. Whenever I've tried to evade an interdiction (as opposed to submitting and then making the choice between fighting and boost/boost/highwake) I've seen those rules in operation. Sometimes the geometry and your respective ships agility just makes it one-sided, but only once have I experienced such a complete insta-interdict that I wondered whether it was a bug. At the same time I've heard enough very credible reports of other folks experiencing it that I do believe there are bugs in there.

 

[sqzbox1]

I got a 100% win rate against NPC interdictions, they are so laughably easy to evade or win when I am the interdictor its hilarious. I don't understand how people lose these things.

Yeah - well - thanks for the helpful input to the OP's question. I can only assume that since you offer no advice whatsoever that you are not being truthful but rather simply trolling. In short - I don't believe you. I'm sure you don't care about that, so - just sayin'.

 

[tagos]

I play with the X 55 also. I win probably 80% of interdictions.

The Devs said that how the npc follows its vector affects the outcome as well so following your own vector perfectly is no guarantee.

My feeling is that I do okay for two reasons

First - I use the twist and roll to follow the marker well enough to light up the central circle a lot
Second - get interdicted most often while long distance smuggling so if I'm interdicted or it looks like I am, I activate the hyperdrive so when the marker gets close to the jump destination the interdiction breaks.

As a third, I fly with an eye on other ships to evade interception in the first place. Don't fly direct to a destination, if someone is chasing me I speed and loop, use gravity wells etc.

My experience is that the interdiction is not hard to avoid but the circumstances I encounter it may be limited.

 

[Papa]

Well it's very good that some of you have no issues but I am nearly giving up. I cannot win no matter what I do. I just got 10 interdictions over the past hour. So I tried to change tactic and simply jump to another system and ccome back. Instadiction on my return. Fight all that again and get to the station thinking at least no cops this time. Just NPCs. But no. Even after jumping to another system and coming all the way back the cops just apear from nowhere as I try to dock. So no way to win. If FD don't want me doing shadow missions then please just say so. No wonder players are leaving. I have only one friend still playing. He may be alone soon as I am nearly burnt out. All this talk about 2.1 and I have heard nothing about fixing the basics.

So sorry to the DEvs but this code is not fit for purpuse... I will wait a few months for all the new bugs to be fixed in 2.1 and see how things fair. Hope they get on top of things and start making some common sense.

Take care all