Hardware & Technical Internet speed of 1 Gb / s

[Patrick_68000]

In the advertisements of ISP in my region, I see offers to 1 Gb / s download.

However the ad always says "up to" 1 Gb/s and says "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s".

My equipment is 4-5 years old.

An CPU Intel 4770k with 8GB of DDR3 at 1866Mhz and a Gigabit Intel network (10/100/1000) chip on motherboard Asus Maximus Hero VI, and a SSD Samsung 850 Pro will accept the speed of 1Gb /s ?

Thanks to the connoisseurs for their opinions.

 

[xondk]

In the advertisements of ISP in my region, I see offers to 1 Gb / s download.

However the ad always says "up to" 1 Gb/s and says "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s".

My equipment is 4-5 years old.

An CPU Intel 4770k with 8GB of DDR3 at 1866Mhz and a Gigabit Intel network (10/100/1000) chip on motherboard Asus Maximus Hero VI, and a SSD Samsung 850 Pro will accept the speed of 1Gb /s ?

Thanks to the connoisseurs for their opinions.

You should really have no issue, when they say that it is generally because when you reach those speeds there are things other then network that can slow you down.

850 pro should be able to keep consistent with 1gb/s if you manage to download with those speeds from any single site, sites like steam and such generally seem to limit their speeds to around 250~350 mbps, so it doesn't even max out my own 400/400 connection.

But say if you download a file to a spinning disk, you might hit a disc issue where the disc itself cannot write more then 150~250 mbps, so you'd never be able to hit your 1gbp with a spinning disk.
Even with a fast SSD, activity on your disk can also slow it down, the more it is already doing the slower it will write from network.

This is why speedtests are generally attempted to be written in such way that they avoid using disc space at all when testing very high speeds but instead only cache and ram since those can much moreeasily handle those speeds.

 

[Patrick_68000]

You should really have no issue, when they say that it is generally because when you reach those speeds there are things other then network that can slow you down.

850 pro should be able to keep consistent with 1gb/s if you manage to download with those speeds from any single site, sites like steam and such generally seem to limit their speeds to around 250~350 mbps, so it doesn't even max out my own 400/400 connection.

But say if you download a file to a spinning disk, you might hit a disc issue where the disc itself cannot write more then 150~250 mbps, so you'd never be able to hit your 1gbp with a spinning disk.
Even with a fast SSD, activity on your disk can also slow it down, the more it is already doing the slower it will write from network.

This is why speedtests are generally attempted to be written in such way that they avoid using disc space at all when testing very high speeds but instead only cache and ram since those can much moreeasily handle those speeds.

I thought mainly for browsing the net and play online. Especially since that I disabled the Windows swap file. With 8 GB of RAM I never had a problem without swap file.

Of course I also download files but in this case I know that the speed is limited by the rotating hard disk and even the SSD. If I can download at the maximum speed of the rotating disk SATA III, I am happy.

Thank's for your explanations which confirm that my CPU and RAM as well as the Intel network chip will not have too much difficulty.

I see a lot of comments on the Internet from people who have the 1 Gb / s package and complain to obtain "only" 250 Mb / s.

So I prefer to be sure before to buy.

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

Does the provider supply the gigabit modem? If not, "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s" probably refers to you needing a modem or combined modem/router with a gigabit WAN port. Or would you be connecting directly to your PC? You don't say what OS you are using so you should double-check for PPPoE support in the OS (unlikely to be an issue but always best to check) and depending on OS/drivers you might need to install more recent drivers for your NIC (Intel® Ethernet Connection I217-V) according to https://www.asus.com/ae-en/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/specifications/. Sorry if you know this stuff already

 

[Patrick_68000]

Does the provider supply the gigabit modem? If not, "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s" probably refers to you needing a modem or combined modem/router with a gigabit WAN port. Or would you be connecting directly to your PC? You don't say what OS you are using so you should double-check for PPPoE support in the OS (unlikely to be an issue but always best to check) and depending on OS/drivers you might need to install more recent drivers for your NIC (Intel® Ethernet Connection I217-V) according to https://www.asus.com/ae-en/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/specifications/. Sorry if you know this stuff already

Yes the provider provides the modem.

It's a GigaCenter Calix_854g-2

My connection would be direct by RJ 45 Ethernet cable.

I use Windows 7 Pro and (also Windows 10 Pro later).

Thanks for the suggestion of the pilot for the Intel chip.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

It's not so much about maxing out your connection for one use only.
And I doubt most servers would give you a full gbps download anyway.

If your router and switches stand up you could however watch fifty three different 4k Netflix streams and still enough bandwidth left to download a game at rather high speed.

Apart from there not really being that much 4k content to watch, and just the subscriptions alone would cost about $200.

 

[Dural]

It's not so much about maxing out your connection for one
use only.
And I doubt most servers would give you a full gbps download.

If your router and switches stand up you could however watch fifty three different 4k Netflix streams and still enough bandwidth left to download a game at rather high speed.

Yup, this. Hardly any sites max out my 200Mb internet connection. Nvidia and Steam do but I can't think of any others apart from the odd Linux ISO I dload from the University of Kent mirror from time to time.

1Gb is stupidly quick.

Provided everything in the chain between your ISP and your machine will support that speed you're golden. I don't think your machine is going to be any kind of problem.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Meanwhile I'm muddling along with a measly 300/300 connection.

And I'm ok with that.
Already had to put our modem into bridge mode just to get that.

 

[Patrick_68000]

It's not so much about maxing out your connection for one use only.
And I doubt most servers would give you a full gbps download anyway.

If your router and switches stand up you could however watch fifty three different 4k Netflix streams and still enough bandwidth left to download a game at rather high speed.

Apart from there not really being that much 4k content to watch, and just the subscriptions alone would cost about $200.

Yup, this. Hardly any sites max out my 200Mb internet connection. Nvidia and Steam do but I can't think of any others apart from the odd Linux ISO I dload from the University of Kent mirror from time to time.

1Gb is stupidly quick.

Provided everything in the chain between your ISP and your machine will support that speed you're golden. I don't think your machine is going to be any kind of problem.

Thank's for your valuable opinions.

In fact if I take this package in a few weeks, I know that the speed is certainly out of proportion to my actual use.

But the package price is the same as the price I currently pay for my VDSL2 connection.

So I would be stupid to deprive myself.

In addition, the ISP is a serious regional operator that operates on a fiber network very recent, and the modem seems efficient

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Thank's for your valuable opinions.

in fact if I take this package in a few weeks, I know that the speed is certainly out of proportion to my actual use.

But the package price is the same as the price I currently pay for my VDSL2 connection.

So I would be stupid to deprive myself.

In addition, the ISP is a serious regional operator that operates on a fiber network very recent, and the modem seems efficient

Sounds like a no brainer to me

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[Patrick_68000]

Sounds like a no brainer to me

I think that the way is not bad.

I had a doubt especially concerning my machine which is not more of the last generation.

 

[xondk]

I thought mainly for browsing the net and play online. Especially since that I disabled the Windows swap file. With 8 GB of RAM I never had a problem without swap file.

Of course I also download files but in this case I know that the speed is limited by the rotating hard disk and even the SSD. If I can download at the maximum speed of the rotating disk SATA III, I am happy.

Thank's for your explanations which confirm that my CPU and RAM as well as the Intel network chip will not have too much difficulty.

I see a lot of comments on the Internet from people who have the 1 Gb / s package and complain to obtain "only" 250 Mb / s.

So I prefer to be sure before to buy.

Yup, those complaining about the 250 mbps limit are most likely hitting the disc write speed limit.

Does the provider supply the gigabit modem? If not, "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s" probably refers to you needing a modem or combined modem/router with a gigabit WAN port. Or would you be connecting directly to your PC? You don't say what OS you are using so you should double-check for PPPoE support in the OS (unlikely to be an issue but always best to check) and depending on OS/drivers you might need to install more recent drivers for your NIC (Intel® Ethernet Connection I217-V) according to https://www.asus.com/ae-en/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/specifications/. Sorry if you know this stuff already

Generally it refers to the entire chain from a to b, data deliverer, needs to be able to deliver 1 gbps, and all the infrastructure up to and including your hdd need to support it as well.

 

[MickyG1982]

In the advertisements of ISP in my region, I see offers to 1 Gb / s download.

However the ad always says "up to" 1 Gb/s and says "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s".

My equipment is 4-5 years old.

An CPU Intel 4770k with 8GB of DDR3 at 1866Mhz and a Gigabit Intel network (10/100/1000) chip on motherboard Asus Maximus Hero VI, and a SSD Samsung 850 Pro will accept the speed of 1Gb /s ?

Thanks to the connoisseurs for their opinions.

It doesn't matter, even if your hardware can handle such speeds...

The advert says "up to 1Gbps" even if you had top of the line everything the likelihood of actually attaining (let alone maintaining) that speed is probably less than winning the lottery, twice, on the same day.

 

[Patrick_68000]

It doesn't matter, even if your hardware can handle such speeds...

The advert says "up to 1Gbps" even if you had top of the line everything the likelihood of actually attaining (let alone maintaining) that speed is probably less than winning the lottery, twice, on the same day.

Yes I know that there are daily variations and I have never seen a connection to 1000 Mb/s on the test sites.

The values generally go from 750 to 940 for the better. What I see on average on the test sites

 

[Morbad]

Router and onboard NIC may be limiting factors depending on situation, and you aren't going to get the full gigabit theoretical even in an ideal situation, but you should get close.

Rest of the system won't be a limiting factor.

Yup, those complaining about the 250 mbps limit are most likely hitting the disc write speed limit.

250mbps is only a bit over 31MB/s which is well within the sequential write speeds of a fifteen year old mechanical HDD and barely faster than most cheap USB 2.0 flash drives.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Router and onboard NIC may be limiting factors depending on situation, and you aren't going to get the full gigabit theoretical even in an ideal situation, but you should get close.

Rest of the system won't be a limiting factor.



250mbps is only a bit over 31MB/s which is well within the sequential write speeds of a fifteen year old mechanical HDD and barely faster than most cheap USB 2.0 flash drives.

Not hard to test, just move a file over the network, fairly large one should do.
Between a couple of computers.

If you get close to 1 gpbs you should be confident either of your machines are capable.
Again the use for these large connections isn't necessarily to max one use, you would need some rather special use cases to need that.
But rather for maintaining multiple connections online at once without any real notice to the connection.

Like I mentioned I'm on a measly 300\300 FIOS, and that already means I can watch my 4k netflix, while the rest of my house can stream to their hearts content, in both directions.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Rest of the system won't be a limiting factor.

Thanks for this additionnal confirmation.

250mbps is only a bit over 31MB/s which is well within the sequential write speeds of a fifteen year old mechanical HDD and barely faster than most cheap USB 2.0 flash drives.

With a SSD or SATA III hard disk, there is a big margin finally

 

[Patrick_68000]

Not hard to test, just move a file over the network, fairly large one should do.
Between a couple of computers.

If you get close to 1 gpbs you should be confident either of your machines are capable.
Again the use for these large connections isn't necessarily to max one use, you would need some rather special use cases to need that.
But rather for maintaining multiple connections online at once without any real notice to the connection.

Like I mentioned I'm on a measly 300\300 FIOS, and that already means I can watch my 4k netflix, while the rest of my house can stream to their hearts content, in both directions.

Yes the high speed is interesting for the multitasking.

Internet, TV and telephony simultaneously.

In the documentation of the ISP, I read that the decoder TV reserves a flow of 200 Mb/s on the 1 Gb / s proposed.

And that the HD image and the sound quality with the TV through the optical fiber is two time better that an ADSL / VDSL connection

 

[xondk]

Router and onboard NIC may be limiting factors depending on situation, and you aren't going to get the full gigabit theoretical even in an ideal situation, but you should get close.

Rest of the system won't be a limiting factor.



250mbps is only a bit over 31MB/s which is well within the sequential write speeds of a fifteen year old mechanical HDD and barely faster than most cheap USB 2.0 flash drives.

Yes/No, depending on platter, and other restraints, and yes I am aware in general though various drives can do a lot in speeds, but these are often by using the cache available in the drive last I checked, when cache is saturated speeds go down.
Physical Harddrive discs have their limit simply by their nature, you have to remember sata 1 was 1.5 gbps and physical spinning discs couldn't even saturate that, and it isn't like hdd transfer rates have increased dramatically on physical spinning disk hdd's since then, the extra bandwidth afforded by sata 2 and above is really only an advantage to things that need to cross talk or high speed ssd's as well as the various communication overheads, also remember that writes are generally slower then reads.

 

[ZeroAi]

1 Gb / s download.

I want that!