Intra-System Trading Question

Leadfoot

Leadfoot
Found two bases in the same system.

1. Station 1 has stuff that Station 2 needs.
2. Station 2 has stuff that Station 1 needs.

Both are about 400 or so light seconds apart (orbit planet 1 and 4).
Profit in both directions.
Noted no increase in trade rank (stuck at 46%).

Question: Do you get an increase in trade rank for Intra-System trading or do you have to have to jump to a different star system for this?
 

Arthur Shappey

Arthur Shappey
Until someone who knows what they are talking about replies - in my experience the system isn't that sophisticated.

What rank are you? And what profit did you make? You need quite a lot of profit to move your trade percent up at the higher ranks...
 

Leadfoot

Leadfoot
Arthur Shappey said:
Until someone who knows what they are talking about replies - in my experience the system isn't that sophisticated.

What rank are you? And what profit did you make? You need quite a lot of profit to move your trade percent up at the higher ranks...
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At the moment, "Broker." Profit depends on what stuff I bring back and forth (water purifiers in one direction, BEER in the other - they need lots of beer). Profit varies between 45k in one direction and 32k in the other.

BTW, switched from my Asp Explorer to a Type 9 Heavy. Shielded but everything else is cargo hold modules.
 
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Yeah, its rare, but you can find them. I did some runs trading early on ED in empire space where there is an agriculture station near to an industrial (IIRC).

Even better if they are controlled by different factions and have complimentary faction states. Some high but short term profits might be made then.

You might even be able to engineer such a state of affairs by yourself if you look for a nice low pop system somewhere remote with the right types of stations.
 

Yaffle

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Yaffle
Yes, it counts towards trade rank. There are some that are really very good, check surface to station prices too.
 

Leadfoot

Leadfoot
Agony_Aunt said:
Yeah, its rare, but you can find them. I did some runs trading early on ED in empire space where there is an agriculture station near to an industrial (IIRC).
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That's exactly what I found (Cubeo).

Yaffle said:
Yes, it counts towards trade rank. There are some that are really very good, check surface to station prices too.
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Ah, thanks will check those out as well and thanks for the confirmation. :)
 

CMDR WER NUR

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I made my first CRs with trade runs between Cleve Hub (Marine Equipment?) to Ackerman Market (Tea or something like that back to Cleve Hub) in Eravate.
Oh the good times :)

MFG
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CMDR Endincite

CMDR Endincite
Just to note that it's normally faster to travel to another system. Entering a system and travelling 400ls to a typical ELW, let's say, takes a good deal less time than leaving that ELW's orbit in SC and then travelling 400ls. Often enough to make up for the time to FSD-charge & jump (which you do more briefly anyway in SC for intrasystem). Yes it could be faster than an intersystem route you could find locally, but definitely don't assume it is, intuitively. Effectively no intrasystem route that isn't to markets orbiting the same planet is faster than the fastest 1-jump routes to be found.

Edit: I suppose some have different/extreme lag times during FSD jumps.
 
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ForeverN00b

ForeverN00b
By my math, you are in a Type 9 making 45K one direction and 32K the return direction. If you have approximately 450 tons of cargo capacity, that's about 100Cr/T one way and 68Cr/T the other way. That is a very slim profit per ton in any ship. As another poster pointed out, you don't really save time staying in system due to how the travel system works. The reason your rank is increasing very slowly is because your bank balance is increasing very slowly.

Find a more profitable trade route and you should see greater returns in both money and trade rank.
 

Leadfoot

Leadfoot
ForeverN00b said:
By my math, you are in a Type 9 making 45K one direction and 32K the return direction. If you have approximately 450 tons of cargo capacity, that's about 100Cr/T one way and 68Cr/T the other way. That is a very slim profit per ton in any ship. As another poster pointed out, you don't really save time staying in system due to how the travel system works. The reason your rank is increasing very slowly is because your bank balance is increasing very slowly.

Find a more profitable trade route and you should see greater returns in both money and trade rank.
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Got it, thanks for the Math (hey, I'm old; Math makes my head hurt).

This does seem to be a profitable run and this Type 9 has short legs so I was glad to find a good run between these two star ports in the same system. I'm experimenting with what provides the biggest profit in both directions since I'd prefer to actually stay in-system with this space cow. Upgraded lots of equipment on it but a good FSD for this thing is about 10+ million and I'm being careful with these re-buy situation right now. Good advice, though. I'll see what provides the biggest profit and go with it. BTW, it notched up from 46% to 47% last night. At least it's heading in the right direction. :)
 

777Driver

777Driver
Leadfoot said:
Found two bases in the same system.

1. Station 1 has stuff that Station 2 needs.
2. Station 2 has stuff that Station 1 needs.

Both are about 400 or so light seconds apart (orbit planet 1 and 4).
Profit in both directions.
Noted no increase in trade rank (stuck at 46%).

Question: Do you get an increase in trade rank for Intra-System trading or do you have to have to jump to a different star system for this?
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Yeah it will count towards your trade rank. Btw, I have a few systems out there that allow you to trade between surface ports on the same planet (must be thousands like that out there) You only have to orbital cruise between the two stations. Closest two I found where 600km apart.

Sol was also quite a good system for intra system trading. Mercury used to have a high profit route from Elhrich city to another port on the same planet, also very good profits to some of the orbital stations in system.

You need a T9/Anaconda/Cutter for those kind of routes.
 
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