I like the real life where I paid less than half that cost to build my own gaming PC that can outperform that laptop in every measurable way.
Is Alienware 15' the best laptop to play this game?
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I like the real life where I paid less than half that cost to build my own gaming PC that can outperform that laptop in every measurable way.
i'm still trying to figure out how long the battery lasts in the half price gaming pc...
Hi everyone it's Saturday night for me I thought I'd pop in quickly.
Apologies if I sounded a bit hard in some of my posts. As the title mentions for this thread, I was originally going to get the NZ$4,000 Laptop. But someone said desktops are cheaper. And the alienware x51 with the specs I want in the build costs NZ$2,900. I will keep my current HP 15-ab222tx laptop for everyday use and have a little look around this weekend on NZ/Australian sites to see if there is another system I want at a better price but I don't think would be. Dell NZ frequently has sells like free upgrade from 8-16GB RAM. I'll wait I a little bit for that $2,999 to dip down to $2,700 ish. Queens Birthdays and ANZAC Day are happening not too far away. If you ask me, HP is the rip off. In their $2,000-$3,000 (NZ) price range you still only get like CPU's and GPU's which are still weaker than what alienware offers.
Intel's 6th gen i7 6700 [squeeeeee]and Nvidia GTX 970[yesnod] are powerful. Yes I read about the GTX bottle necking if you use over 3.5GB of the 4GB card, but in order to do that I read, you have to play high demanding games in 4k Ultra settings. The GTX 970's vRAM has a higher bandwidth (over 200GB/s) than even PS4's GDDR5 memory (176GB/s)Yes they're not the best. But it's sad when you play The Sims 4, Cities Skylines, and this game and your laptop/PC struggles to play it on 'nice looking graphics' setting with above 1-15/20fps. I may have to dip into some of my savings money to get it. Sure there are going to be people who will disagree with me probably because they've been PC gaming for a lot longer than I have. Yes I could go custom build, but I'd probably muck up something like hardware compatibility and who to do it from (wow I don't know them) and then that's several hundred dollars down the drain. Have the confidence to do it from a retailer that's locale or company which is familiar.
I hope everyone knows I changed the main discussion of this thread to I'm planning on getting the alienware x51 which is a DESKTOP. Who knows I might change my mind tomorrow and find something.
I actually found some of the peps comments in this thread helpful. I was going to get a laptop $1,000 more expensive with only GTX 980M but someone implied desktops are cheaper. Regarding ASUS, I don't really know them and the PC's don't really offer what I find the stuff alienware does at the NZ$2,700 price range. Neither do HP nor Acer. So I decided to put aside "ah, it isn't mobile, it doesn't have a battery". A reason why people may say games can't also be CPU intensive is probably they have a high end CPU and when the checkout Windows 10 Task Manager it says it's only using 40%. I checked out task manager on my HP laptop and it said my i5-6200u CPU was at 100% 2.69Ghz. If CPU's or i7 or i5 are not important, maybe I should look for a PC with an Intel CELERON CPU @ 1.1Ghz.... it's all about the GPU, right?[hehe]........ (just joking).
Apologies if I sounded a bit hard in some of my posts. As the title mentions for this thread, I was originally going to get the NZ$4,000 Laptop. But someone said desktops are cheaper. And the alienware x51 with the specs I want in the build costs NZ$2,900. I will keep my current HP 15-ab222tx laptop for everyday use and have a little look around this weekend on NZ/Australian sites to see if there is another system I want at a better price but I don't think would be. Dell NZ frequently has sells like free upgrade from 8-16GB RAM. I'll wait I a little bit for that $2,999 to dip down to $2,700 ish. Queens Birthdays and ANZAC Day are happening not too far away. If you ask me, HP is the rip off. In their $2,000-$3,000 (NZ) price range you still only get like CPU's and GPU's which are still weaker than what alienware offers.
Intel's 6th gen i7 6700 [squeeeeee]and Nvidia GTX 970[yesnod] are powerful. Yes I read about the GTX bottle necking if you use over 3.5GB of the 4GB card, but in order to do that I read, you have to play high demanding games in 4k Ultra settings. The GTX 970's vRAM has a higher bandwidth (over 200GB/s) than even PS4's GDDR5 memory (176GB/s)Yes they're not the best. But it's sad when you play The Sims 4, Cities Skylines, and this game and your laptop/PC struggles to play it on 'nice looking graphics' setting with above 1-15/20fps. I may have to dip into some of my savings money to get it. Sure there are going to be people who will disagree with me probably because they've been PC gaming for a lot longer than I have. Yes I could go custom build, but I'd probably muck up something like hardware compatibility and who to do it from (wow I don't know them) and then that's several hundred dollars down the drain. Have the confidence to do it from a retailer that's locale or company which is familiar.
I hope everyone knows I changed the main discussion of this thread to I'm planning on getting the alienware x51 which is a DESKTOP. Who knows I might change my mind tomorrow and find something.
I actually found some of the peps comments in this thread helpful. I was going to get a laptop $1,000 more expensive with only GTX 980M but someone implied desktops are cheaper. Regarding ASUS, I don't really know them and the PC's don't really offer what I find the stuff alienware does at the NZ$2,700 price range. Neither do HP nor Acer. So I decided to put aside "ah, it isn't mobile, it doesn't have a battery". A reason why people may say games can't also be CPU intensive is probably they have a high end CPU and when the checkout Windows 10 Task Manager it says it's only using 40%. I checked out task manager on my HP laptop and it said my i5-6200u CPU was at 100% 2.69Ghz. If CPU's or i7 or i5 are not important, maybe I should look for a PC with an Intel CELERON CPU @ 1.1Ghz.... it's all about the GPU, right?[hehe]........ (just joking).
I think it may pay off to have a 6th gen Intel Core i7 6700 (8MB cache, 3.4Ghz base speed with turbo boost to 4Ghz, quad core aka 4 physical cores with Intel's hyperthreading).
I read that while the GPU handles geometry, people/AI may be handled by the CPU. The game may start off with not many peps in the park, but as they number grows to 2000 or 3000. Windows 10 Task Manager I think is a great tool by Microsoft. If it is a CPU job, then surely the i7 CPU will find this a piece of cake. I know Intel's 6th gen i5-6200u (the processor my laptop has) struggles with even 2,000 people in the park on 1920x1080p LOW settings playing with AMD Radeon R7 M360 2GB graphics (which my laptop has). When there are lots of rides in the park and near maximimum peps or 2000-3000 peps, depending on what GPU and CPU you have, it may impact performance. Results I get in Windows 10 Task Manager prove games are CPU intensive. 16GB RAM should be enough. I checked Windows 10 Task Manager, and while playing the game on 1920x1080 Low Settings, it's using around 4GB RAM out of the 8GB DDR3L 1600 RAM my laptop has, in Task Manager, and that's the total RAM my WHOLE laptop is using including the operating system running in the background.
The alienware x51 with these specs should be able to run this game fine with 25-45fps at 1920x1080 High settings:
6th gen Intel i7 6700 (8MB cache, 3.4Ghz with turbo boost to 4Ghz, quad core 4 physical CPU cores, with integrated Intel HD 530 graphics)
Nvidia GTX 970 4GB (memory bandwidth 224GB/s)
16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM
Windows 10 64-bit Home (with Direct x12)
Intel Z170 chipset
Motherboard: Mini ITX
I've researched a lot of retailers on NZ and for a $2,700 around about price range, no other systems have these. If they have some of these, it's either with no optical drive or no OS or only 8GB RAM or 16GB DDR3 RAM instead of DDR4 RAM. 16GB RAM helps future proof a device rather than only 8GB RAM. Retailers in NZ also charge NZ$169 for Windows 10 Home 64-bit.
I read that while the GPU handles geometry, people/AI may be handled by the CPU. The game may start off with not many peps in the park, but as they number grows to 2000 or 3000. Windows 10 Task Manager I think is a great tool by Microsoft. If it is a CPU job, then surely the i7 CPU will find this a piece of cake. I know Intel's 6th gen i5-6200u (the processor my laptop has) struggles with even 2,000 people in the park on 1920x1080p LOW settings playing with AMD Radeon R7 M360 2GB graphics (which my laptop has). When there are lots of rides in the park and near maximimum peps or 2000-3000 peps, depending on what GPU and CPU you have, it may impact performance. Results I get in Windows 10 Task Manager prove games are CPU intensive. 16GB RAM should be enough. I checked Windows 10 Task Manager, and while playing the game on 1920x1080 Low Settings, it's using around 4GB RAM out of the 8GB DDR3L 1600 RAM my laptop has, in Task Manager, and that's the total RAM my WHOLE laptop is using including the operating system running in the background.
The alienware x51 with these specs should be able to run this game fine with 25-45fps at 1920x1080 High settings:
6th gen Intel i7 6700 (8MB cache, 3.4Ghz with turbo boost to 4Ghz, quad core 4 physical CPU cores, with integrated Intel HD 530 graphics)
Nvidia GTX 970 4GB (memory bandwidth 224GB/s)
16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM
Windows 10 64-bit Home (with Direct x12)
Intel Z170 chipset
Motherboard: Mini ITX
I've researched a lot of retailers on NZ and for a $2,700 around about price range, no other systems have these. If they have some of these, it's either with no optical drive or no OS or only 8GB RAM or 16GB DDR3 RAM instead of DDR4 RAM. 16GB RAM helps future proof a device rather than only 8GB RAM. Retailers in NZ also charge NZ$169 for Windows 10 Home 64-bit.
For me, it's a special case. I need a laptop because I'm paraplegic. So I need to be mobile. I want gaming (and working - programmer) in bed and other places. I need the flexibility.
If I would not, I would build a desktop PC too. Like I made years ago. But now... I like gaming on it, it gives my life more comfort and I have the money. Why should I not do it?
Actually it's comparable. After a year the laptop will not survive five minutes unplugged. You're also not listening to anyone in this thread.
You've learned nothing. You're spouting nonsense. Please just go waste this money (it's obviously not yours that you're spending) and stop posting here.
high end game pc's are not cheap indeed. but what you have is not high end, it does the job yes. but for that price its overpaying. 970 is a very good card but its not high end, its mid to high.
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see but thats a valid reason!
I run Planet Coaster on an i5.4460, gtx970 and a 24inch 1080p, 144hz monitor. The game runs absolutely buttery smooth even with the high frame rate and 3000 peeps on high settings. I built my own and upgraded it over the years but I find it hard to believe that you have to spend around $3000 for a pre-built computer or laptop just to play Planet Coaster in 1080p. I'm not really familiar with NZ prices but that just sounds like overkill.
...now I'm fantasizing over what parts I'd buy if I had a $3000 budget...[shocked]
...now I'm fantasizing over what parts I'd buy if I had a $3000 budget...[shocked]
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indeed. if i had a 3k budget my rig would be ❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎ amazing, i spent just over 1000 on what i have now and i can play all my games(even the division) in ultra.
Seeing as it's a desktop and runs on a PSU, I'd say about thirty years.
This will be one of my last comments in this Thread.
Thanks to the peps who said I should keep my laptop and get a Desktop for gaming and keep my laptop for everyday. Thanks to the peps who also said to shop around.
http://1stwave.co.nz/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_6_10&products_id=507
I found this retailer via trade me nz and they said they include the Windows 10 OS and Wi-Fi ac for approximately NZ$2100. It has the Intel Core i7 6700 CPU and even better, an AMD Radeon R9 390 8GB vRAM (which has a high memory bandwidth (380GB/s approx.) AND FULL Directx12 support, and 16GB DDR4 1333Mhz RAM. Comes with 18 month RTB warranty.
Thanks to the peps who said I should keep my laptop and get a Desktop for gaming and keep my laptop for everyday. Thanks to the peps who also said to shop around.
http://1stwave.co.nz/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_6_10&products_id=507
I found this retailer via trade me nz and they said they include the Windows 10 OS and Wi-Fi ac for approximately NZ$2100. It has the Intel Core i7 6700 CPU and even better, an AMD Radeon R9 390 8GB vRAM (which has a high memory bandwidth (380GB/s approx.) AND FULL Directx12 support, and 16GB DDR4 1333Mhz RAM. Comes with 18 month RTB warranty.
Looks pretty good for almost NZ$1,000.00 LESS than the laptop you originally wanted, and will be less problematic in the future.
I'd still recommend building one in the future if you are truly price conscious, but that one should hold you over for quite some time and will be able to run most games on max settings for a few years to come.
