Modes Is BGS PvP a Myth?

[StiTch]

Some months ago, my alt-CMDR went to war with a relatively popular player faction on PS4. I wanted to experiment with intentionally affecting the BGS along with being a criminal. I was actually able to trigger a lockdown for this faction! I wanted to do this "honorably", so I always played in Open, flying a modest PvE-focused ship. My CMDR hit #1 on the "Most Wanted" list in the systems I was targeting, so anybody could see where I was and what I was flying.

And nobody did a thing about it.

Sure, I got some "threats" via the forum and my message box, but I never once encountered an actual player, despite hanging out in their home system for hours at a time. I was actually hoping someone would come along and collect my multi-million bounty, as I didn't have anything against this faction, it was all just a gameplay experiment for me. However, I might as well have been playing in Solo.

And that's my point. For all the "make XYZ Open-only" arguments I see in the forum, my own experience makes me wonder if the idea of using PvP to defend the BGS is more of a myth than reality.

Thoughts?

So you attempted to prove the BGS isn't manipulated from PG/Solo, by proving there are no players in Open.

Spoiler

 

[Mouse]

It tells me people limit their experiences. Because there is a game underneath all this mess. And many of us would like to play it.

They know the answer to the question they are asking. Its why they asked it. That person has been around for quite a while.

Its not evasive at all. Its been explained. By lots of people.

Many things have been explained, most of it you ignore because again, such as your answer above, you know more than anyone else... you are a genius as you have professed over and over.

Sorry but no... and your answer was and still massively evasive.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Many things have been explained, most of it you ignore because again, such as your answer above, you know more than anyone else... you are a genius as you have professed over and over.

Sorry but no... and your answer was and still massively evasive.

No Mouse, its pretty direct.

Since you fail to understand. With a little digging on reddit this topic came up pretty often in the past.

Quite Frankly a lot of us are tired of having our intelligence insulted by a bunch of people that dont know jack squat.

And we dont have a problem calling people out on it.

That was from a post a year ago BTW. Nothing I have said here is new.

The same people tout and continue to these conversations based on their experiences they limited themselves to.

And that made this thread we see here. When the majority of the community elsewhere, as we seen on reddit with the fuelrats thing wanting open only BGS too. And then the counter post filled with the same people from these forums onto reddit. Because we all recognized the same names from here and laughed. Looked at the post history and it was clear it was brigaded.

The rest of the community laughs at this place.

They dont want to be here because of it.

 

[Mouse]

No Mouse, its pretty direct.

Since you fail to understand. With a little digging on reddit this topic came up pretty often in the past.



Quite Frankly a lot of us are tired of having our intelligence insulted by a bunch of people that dont know jack squat.

And we dont have a problem calling people out on it.

That was from a post a year ago BTW. Nothing I have said here is new.

The same people tout and continue to *edited* these conversations based on their experiences they limited themselves to.

And that *edited* made this thread we see here. When the majority of the community elsewhere, as we seen on reddit with the fuelrats thing wanting open only BGS too. And then the counter post filled with the same people from these forums onto reddit. Because we all recognized the same names from here and laughed. Looked at the post history and it was clear it was brigaded.

The rest of the community laughs at this place.

They dont want to be here because of it.

Seriously.. you are claiming Reddit is the "pulse" of the Elite Dangerous community and trying to use it to prove a point?? *headdesk* What next Wikipedia? You haven't had the best experience on the forums... you know who's fault that is? YOURS! Every post removed, every temporary ban.. you were at fault. If I say something I shouldn't have and break the rules I get censored and have had my own "vacations". You are getting snippy because you were called out again and so you are going down this road. Spewing accusations and falsehoods while claiming your evasive answers are "the truth".

You want to talk about people who don't know jack squat... look in a flipping MIRROR. You know the person.. .that 90's kid who bought a game and ever since has been bellyaching and demanding the game be changed to HIS playstyle and whining and complaining when things don't go his way and blaming everyone else who had a clue and researched the game before putting any money towards it. How many times have you sworn to quit the game and leave if things don't go your way, and how many times have you reneged on your statements. How many times has your "genius" predictions crashed and burned?

Reddit is not the "rest of the community", not even close, nor is it a good pulse of the community. Nothing has been brigaded by those who you accuse of doing it. If anything it would be the "open only" crowd who's attempted it, and even then it could barely be called that. If you want to be a part of this community then be a part of it, but since you jump in on the scene you have been antagonistic to it and then blame everyone else for what happens....

The community can reach consensus on stuff and not have these round and round discussions But it has to take everyone realizing that their playstyle isn't the only one... now can you tell me which playstyle hasn't figured this out yet?

Get a clue 90's...

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Seriously.. you are claiming Reddit is the "pulse" of the Elite Dangerous community and trying to use it to prove a point?? *headdesk* What next Wikipedia? You haven't had the best experience on the forums... you know who's fault that is? YOURS! Every post removed, every temporary ban.. you were at fault. If I say something I shouldn't have and break the rules I get censored and have had my own "vacations". You are getting snippy because you were called out again and so you are going down this road. Spewing accusations and falsehoods while claiming your evasive answers are "the truth".

You want to talk about people who don't know jack squat... look in a flipping MIRROR. You know the person.. .that 90's kid who bought a game and ever since has been bellyaching and demanding the game be changed to HIS playstyle and whining and complaining when things don't go his way and blaming everyone else who had a clue and researched the game before putting any money towards it. How many times have you sworn to quit the game and leave if things don't go your way, and how many times have you reneged on your statements. How many times has your "genius" predictions crashed and burned?

Reddit is not the "rest of the community", not even close, nor is it a good pulse of the community. Nothing has been brigaded by those who you accuse of doing it. If anything it would be the "open only" crowd who's attempted it, and even then it could barely be called that. If you want to be a part of this community then be a part of it, but since you jump in on the scene you have been antagonistic to it and then blame everyone else for what happens....

The community can reach consensus on stuff and not have these round and round discussions But it has to take everyone realizing that their playstyle isn't the only one... now can you tell me which playstyle hasn't figured this out yet?

Get a clue 90's...

Playstyle has 0 to do with this Mouse.

There were even threads about powerplay going open and people thought others were making "alt accs" to pad the numbers because they couldn't believe it.

Outside of this little bubble this place is laughed at.

And its exactly the reason that guy breakfastmelon posted.

Welcome to reality.

 

[Mouse]

Playstyle has 0 to do with this Mouse.

There were even threads about powerplay going open and people thought others were making "alt accs" to pad the numbers because they couldn't believe it.

Outside of this little bubble this place is laughed at.

And its exactly the reason that guy breakfastmelon posted.

Welcome to reality.

Playstyle has a LOT to do with it, because playstyle has been your bloody complaint from day 1, hell threads about powerplay going open only IS also a playstyle issue so thank you for giving me a point there.

Reality bit you in the butt when this game wasn't how you thought it would be. You claim this is a "little bubble" yet think Reddit is some sage place where reality is posted... sorry to burst your bubble, but I've seen more utter crap on reddit than most places, ED, No Mans Sky, Star Citizen, just to name a few of the reddits where utter garbage is posted. Here the threads are moderated more effectively... do I always agree with the moderation? No I don't, but I don't throw a hissy fit (see your above post just below the moderator's) and spew crap because a mod deleted a post.

Play the game or go elsewhere, this constant drivel about how the game should be is why the threads circle so much. And why the S.O.G. "Hotel California" posts are the way they are...


If people accept others playstyles and quit trying to force them into open, or unbalance the modes or anything else to get themselves an advantage over those who don't play their way... those threads would never have been in the first place.

Again... you want to look at the issue... look at a mirror, reality has been staring me in the face since day one... .what's your excuse?

 

[Zieman]

Quite Frankly a lot of us are tired of having our intelligence insulted by a bunch of people that dont know jack squat.

Yes, please stop doing that.

The same people tout and continue to these conversations based on their experiences they limited themselves to.

And yet you are here again doing just that.

 

[Brett C]

Folks, am closing this thread.

Berating one another, let alone trolling the daylights out of one another, which appears to be an effort of "I'm better than you" or "Chest Thumping", just doesn't fly here. It may work elsewhere, but it simply doesn't end well here on the Frontier Forums.

If you want to better the community, better yourself, then begin assisting others in being better, or as some like to call it "gitting gud".

Help out people here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/75-Newcomers-And-Introductions-Forum

Write a guide or many here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/77-Guides-And-Tutorials

We even have a ships forum here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/116-Ships - discuss ship builds in there, min/max, etc.

Thanks.