Is Eclipse redundant if I already have Aphelion?
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Yes and no, unfortunately. The aphelion is a heavy laser rifle. The eclipse is a sub machine laser gun.
Aphelion: longer range, heavier hitting, slower rate of fire. Better at medium to long range.
Eclipse: better at short to medium range. I have noticed the eclipse seems to do better against armor than the aphelion.
In the end, it comes down to personal preference and play style. FWIW, for my play style, I prefer the aphelion.
Aphelion: longer range, heavier hitting, slower rate of fire. Better at medium to long range.
Eclipse: better at short to medium range. I have noticed the eclipse seems to do better against armor than the aphelion.
In the end, it comes down to personal preference and play style. FWIW, for my play style, I prefer the aphelion.
If we ever get in-station combat where there is no long range, I'd totally go Eclipse. In some of the CZs where a lot of checkpoints are indoors, it's better. But who takes checkpoints anyway?
Yeah, agreed. For ground CZ’s, my play style is that I rarely go indoors for close quarters combat checkpoints because I can kill more bad guys out in the open during the same time.
I did see a YT video a while back where someone was using the rocket launcher to drop shields and taking the baddies down with a C44, and he was pretty effective and fast. That’s because the optimal range on both weapons is similar. I really think that’s the key: have (swappable) weapons that can quickly take down shields and armor, that have similar optimal ranges. Match that to your preference, or like me mix it up occasionally for a change of pace.
I did see a YT video a while back where someone was using the rocket launcher to drop shields and taking the baddies down with a C44, and he was pretty effective and fast. That’s because the optimal range on both weapons is similar. I really think that’s the key: have (swappable) weapons that can quickly take down shields and armor, that have similar optimal ranges. Match that to your preference, or like me mix it up occasionally for a change of pace.
Eclipse is bit better in close range or indoors, than Aphelion, due of much higher fire rate and larger mag size. But its nowhere as accurate on longer ranges, and falloff diffrence is noticable, well as its dmg per shot.
Not fan of its biggest flaw, it does shots from two barrels, wich makes its shots being fired slightly offset on left or right, never at center where you point at, but atleast on close range, it does not matter, while on 40m and above, it makes quite spread, as its not pinpoint accurate either, even with scope and stability.
Not fan of its biggest flaw, it does shots from two barrels, wich makes its shots being fired slightly offset on left or right, never at center where you point at, but atleast on close range, it does not matter, while on 40m and above, it makes quite spread, as its not pinpoint accurate either, even with scope and stability.
Technically it should not, all Laser weapons (Eclipse, Aphelion and Zenith) should share the same 'Damages Modifier' against Shields or Body (aka Thermal or Kinetic).
Exactly! Eclipse has better fire-rate and larger mag. Those are probably its most important strengths.
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Eclipse also has:
- lower 'Movements Penalty'. (Because SMGs are lighter than Rifles. Note: The penalty is removed if you have 'Combat Mov Speed')
- shorter 'Reload Time'
- faster 'ADS Speed'
- shorter 'Ready Time'
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If you swap weapons from laser to kinetic eclipse is way faster especially if paired with Karma C-44
A G5 Eclipse with headshot, increased mag size, stability and something else (stowed reloading maybe if swapping weapons alot) is quite deadly.
Deadlier than an Aphelion in close-mid range combat