Is EDDB not very accurate or am i doing it wrong

Macy

Macy
I'm using the "multi hop route" thing for trading. I like travelling to different systems that i don't usually visit whilst earning a few credits. But, the predicted profit from each hop is far less than eddb says. Also some commodities aren't even available. I set everything properly i think. Set current system, landing pad size, cargo capacity, max hop distance, available credits. Maybe I'm missing something here. My last stop made 10% of what eddb predicted. Some stops have even made a loss.
Is there a better way to predict a good profitable route?

Thanks
 

fennster

fennster
Macy said:
I'm using the "multi hop route" thing for trading. I like travelling to different systems that i don't usually visit whilst earning a few credits. But, the predicted profit from each hop is far less than eddb says. Also some commodities aren't even available. I set everything properly i think. Set current system, landing pad size, cargo capacity, max hop distance, available credits. Maybe I'm missing something here. My last stop made 10% of what eddb predicted. Some stops have even made a loss.
Is there a better way to predict a good profitable route?

Thanks
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Change the max price age to 1-2 days. (Start with 1, increase to broaden your options if needed.)

It might be showing you routes with very old data.
 
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Tetryl

T
EDDB information is provided by players using the appropriate additional software when they dock at a station. This can be outdated information, for example, if the last person who provided an update on the station visited a week ago. Or it can be minutes ago, in which case it'll be pretty accurate info. EDDB does show the age of its information, look for that. If you see the last update on some price was a days ago or more, be careful.

You can, of course, provide information to EDDB yourself for the stations you visit, in that case you'll have some very up to date information on them if you're running a loop between the same stations all the time.
 

Vorxian

Vorxian
EDDB uses player data input, but because of the nature of the markets (rather the unfortunate side effect of sharing a galaxy even in solo) is that if you find a good thing, broadcast it by adding to EDDB, then other folks will want to share that treasure with you, and it dries up in a flash, especially with all them trade Cutters out there (I'm one of em!).

The question is : to share or not to share. We'd all like to share, but also we'd all not like to give away a very limited profit.
 

Macy

Macy
Ok thanks cmdrs. I'll try changing the age of the prices n stuff. I don't mind sharing the info with eddb. Its a useful site.
 

Bzek

B
Yeah, I share my info as well. Recently learned the whole thing about data age the hard way. Taking advanced medicine to systems that weren't in outbreak anymore.

That taught me to double check before setting off and not trusting EDCD data blindly!
 

Codger

Codger
Yes, the more players that submit data the more accurate eddb will be. It's pretty easy to set up the little collection program. I run it most of the time myself.
 

goemon

goemon
Bzek said:
Yeah, I share my info as well. Recently learned the whole thing about data age the hard way. Taking advanced medicine to systems that weren't in outbreak anymore.

That taught me to double check before setting off and not trusting EDCD data blindly!
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if you want to do state depending tarde, use galaxy and system map to check states - they can change every day.

use eddb.io to scout for potential sources. you always want to export from a boom system - again, check galaxy map.
 

shadragon

shadragon
EDDB commodity info shows when the info was last updated. If you see 7 minutes, there's a good chance it's solid. See 2 months and there's a question mark.
 

Snooch leBooch

Snooch leBooch
lokvette said:
https://github.com/Marginal/EDMarketConnector/wiki

[yesnod]
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^This. Set it up so it automatically sends the data whenever you dock at a station with a commodity market (file-> settings -> eddn -> mark send station date/auto update). If you want to help with system data too, mark it in the same panel, you then will be able to see the systems in edsm as well (stellar map project)

Also be wary of well known trade routes etc. It's entirely possible to have a hour old edmc input that is already invalid due to a large number of people /large ships NOT sending the data automatically, but using eddb, therefore not showing up in your query.
 

Macy

Macy
Snooch leBooch said:
^This. Set it up so it automatically sends the data whenever you dock at a station with a commodity market (file-> settings -> eddn -> mark send station date/auto update). If you want to help with system data too, mark it in the same panel, you then will be able to see the systems in edsm as well (stellar map project)

Also be wary of well known trade routes etc. It's entirely possible to have a hour old edmc input that is already invalid due to a large number of people /large ships NOT sending the data automatically, but using eddb, therefore not showing up in your query.
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Brilliant. Thanks ☺
 

Arka

Arka
Talking about EDDB and EDMC, I'm not a fan of crowdsourcing trade tools, :p I prefer using local data that I gather upon docking with edmc,


I've been scavenging all over the place trying out trade tools here and there. and I find them too hard and or too overkill to fit my needs. Some are just heavy, . I've been fan of pen and papers but it's too tedious for me now., I want easier way to access my edmc .csv logs and figure out my own routes.
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So far ive been only opening them using notepad but it's very tiresome.


I ended up creating this, simple tools, very light, simple to use, no need mysql, no trade route advisor, just something that you can do with pen and paper and figure out the trade yourself which I prefer be doing :D
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i wonder if there's people interested in this, its just a simple csv parser tool though i dont know if I should bother post it on ed player tools forums
 
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Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
Tetryl said:
EDDB information is provided by players using the appropriate additional software when they dock at a station. This can be outdated information, for example, if the last person who provided an update on the station visited a week ago. Or it can be minutes ago, in which case it'll be pretty accurate info. EDDB does show the age of its information, look for that. If you see the last update on some price was a days ago or more, be careful.

You can, of course, provide information to EDDB yourself for the stations you visit, in that case you'll have some very up to date information on them if you're running a loop between the same stations all the time.
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Sad isn't it? Avoid trading because you need literally 3 monitors and pen and paper and about 10 hours of collecting information. Because you can't trust online websites and you can't count on ED giving you any tools or any interfaces that would allow for remembering prices from 5 minutes ago.

Wait until season 12 when they finally get to making some serious advancements in the trading system.
 
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