Is Elite Dangerous worst than Arena Commander? Is normal a company to call console fans "primitive"?

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Is Elite Dangerous worst than Arena Commander? Is normal a company to call console fans "primitive"?

I am not trying to flame anyone, but I am sincerely willing to know the opinion of the Elite Dangerous community about some of the recent Cloud Imperium statements shared through an animation that opened the most recent Around the Verse show, shared with the entire world through their official website and youtube.

The animation is here:

[video]https://youtu.be/SigVdMd66UU[/video]

The message was pretty simple and clear, even that stated by cartoon methods.

CIG claimed that console gamers are primitive human beigns, that Wing Commander was the best Space Sim ever (ignoring all others of its time and relased later) and following simple logic of their statememts, both Wing Commander and any other Space Sim, was suplanted already by their Arena Commander module in its current status.

I think that they were too harsh with games like Elite: Dangerous, EvE, X series, X-Wing, space sim in general, even with the own Chris Roberts legacy, Wing Commander, when stating through that animation that Arena Commander is already "the best space sim ever".

The worst part is that their community shared through their feedback about the show in their forums, that the animation "was the best of the show", "glorious" and other similar feedbacks.

Curious enough, those fans and even Roberts got used to justify all the problems or lack of advance of that module, or the lack of participation of their own public playing that module, because "it's alpha", but now, contradicting all that, we see this animation stating that they already consider Arena Commander "the best space sim ever" now!

Besides, I think that is far from normal or acceptable what they said about console fans, stating that they are like "primitive human beings".

One thing is to try to hype people, to motivate more ship sales, since they are currently selling ships in a limited form by absolutely expensive prices... but other thing is to try to bad mouth others to make it appear better. Probably are hurting themselves with that attittude. Getting money from a few, but ignoring how their message can sound to all the rest. Closing doors in the medium/long term in my point of view.

Hate or not EA, publishers and other companies, we don't see they bad mouthing PC Gamers through their interviews/shows, or even bad mouthing crowd-funding parties like the made by CIG, while they keep bad mouthing publishers as "greedy".

I think that their attitude was truly pathetic and offensive to the game industry as a whole, to games like Elite Dangerous, to the own legacy Wing Commander and even worst, the high level of offensive attack to the console fans, that deserves much more respect, just because prefer consoles, of been called "primitive".

I think that they do not see any limit anymore to motivate ship sales/cash grabbing (to the point of ridicularizing the own legacy of Roberts: Wing Commander), because I think that they are doing that when stating that AC is the best space sim ever.

I would like to know the opinion of the fellow commanders about that?

I am pretty sure that if anything similar came from EA or even FDEV, against CIG, the Star Citizen community or even its devs would react in some low-level form, but let's just try to keep it civil and give our opinions in a more elegant way, to do not go to the low-level that they were, and worst, that was not an attitude of a fan, but an official attitude of the company, shared by their official means of communication, with everyone through Youtube channel and their own website, so, there is no really excuse valid here, like "closed doors statements" or "only for subscribers to listen".
 
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Who cares what Star Citizen community members think? We have a game...they have a tech demo.

Until that fundamental order of things changes I am not going to kiss Chris Robert's Butt.
 

jcrg99

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Who cares what Star Citizen community members think? We have a game...they have a tech demo.

Until that fundamental order of things changes I am not going to kiss Chris Robert's Butt.

It was not the "community". It was Cloud Imperium statements.

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The SC website is thataway --->

They never would allow that any of his community members criticized the fact that they offended console people or even the legacy Wing Commander, as well as any other space sim in the process.
 
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*shrug* They are simply catering to their rabid, reddit-cultured fanbase. Let them brag and advertise the hell out of SC and call it the "BDSSE" all day long. I'll just be here, exploring the galaxy in Elite ;)
 
This awfully reminds me of the Apple vs. PC commercials back in the last decade when Win Vista was having problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSBWbnmGrE

I get it, PCs are awesome (looks at his $1500 rig), but a game company being this smug about it? Come on guys.

I played SC back during the SXSW freebie a few weeks/months ago. Despite the nice vistas, it felt like I was playing a mod with the supremely ugly HUD. The HUD made Mechwarrior Online's decision to make a largely useless cockpit and a nice scaleform HUD a godsend (the MWO comparison comes from the fact both games are using CE3).

Please make an actual game and not a 77m tech demo before making videos like this. It's completely uncalled for.
 
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Sure. Let's see what happens if FDEV make a trailer where they call console fans primitive. All can be forgiven because it's a cartoon or a promo video.
The difference is Elite IS going to be marketed to console people. Sc isn't. So they can afford to off that demographic.
 
bit stupid really they might be glad of the opportunity to port to consoles one day and doing things like this puts egg on the face somewhat.

Besides which they have a lot more pressing things to sort out with that game like their flight model for a start. It's shockingly bad.
 
We've got a game that actually exists and is playable. They've got a tech demo. I'd say we're well ahead at this point.
 
bit stupid really they might be glad of the opportunity to port to consoles one day and doing things like this puts egg on the face somewhat.

Besides which they have a lot more pressing things to sort out with that game like their flight model for a start. It's shockingly bad.
There is also they fact that they don't really have a game. Just an epic vision. A vision that may be TOO epic.
 
bit stupid really they might be glad of the opportunity to port to consoles one day and doing things like this puts egg on the face somewhat.

Besides which they have a lot more pressing things to sort out with that game like their flight model for a start. It's shockingly bad.

Not to mention, by pandering to the "PC gaming master race!!" crowd, they're seriously limiting their potential market and they risk alienating their customers if they ever do release on consoles.
 
Well without turning things upside down I'll say this.. The actual combat system in SC is pitiful compared to ED, and whilst I give Fdev a shear drubbing at times the core flight model is light years a head of the competition. So..

One project has a heap to live up to, the other just has to realise its potential ;)
 
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