General / Off-Topic Is frontier in financial trouble?

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Ianus

Ianus
This but is likely to get me banned but....

Constant bugs to major CGs
Broken mechanics from launch that have not been fixed
The devs being proven that the players know more about the game's mechanics than the company that created it
Horizons launched without any kind of play or focus testing
Fdev possibly migrating their developers to planet coaster in hopes it will save a sinking ship
2.2 flagship being a rebranded exploration mechanic
The CG/BGS/Dev people not communicating properly.

All of this points to a poorly run company trying to keep afloat.
 

MarkAusten

MarkAusten
Ianus said:
This but is likely to get me banned but....

Constant bugs to major CGs
Broken mechanics from launch that have not been fixed
The devs being proven that the players know more about the game's mechanics than the company that created it
Horizons launched without any kind of play or focus testing
Fdev possibly migrating their developers to planet coaster in hopes it will save a sinking ship
2.2 flagship being a rebranded exploration mechanic
The CG/BGS/Dev people not communicating properly.

All of this points to a poorly run company trying to keep afloat.
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Absolutely not if their annual statement is anything to go by.

Besides, most of what you've listed is only supposition in your head.
 

Conch

Conch
Ianus said:
So Fdev is just bad at managing ED for no reason then?
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i think they are doing just fine, sure there are a few bumps in the road, but nothing major.

but i also think you dont understand how much work goes into a game like this.
and being salty about it doesnt help them either, better to give constructive feedback if you dont like something.

and the stuff they make in planet coaster also aplies to ED on some levels, so i would mind if they moved some devs from time to time.
 

thorn-

thorn-
Remember that FDev doesn't make any money from players continuing to play the game, aside from buying a paint job or crap like a bobblehead.

So really, the money-maker is "Sell A New Unit to a New Customer", or "Sell an Expansion". As long as that continues, there's no problem (in FDev's accounting dept, anyway).

They may start selling less Expansions (as players may sour on the game), but that won't impact new sales as quickly... until the word gets around, anyway.
 
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Arry

Arry
Here we go again, another thread forecasting the doom of the producers of a game; that someone is not happy with.

Must be about 6 months since I read the last one of these and if it is less, then these 'profits of doom', or 'doom of profits' threads, should be merged.
 

Sir.Tj

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This again?

No FD are not in financial difficulties.

As mentioned above and in many, many other threads that have been posted on this, read the financial reports and then decide.

As an aside.

FD still receive money from the sales of RCT3 which was released 12 years ago.

Not bad really.
 

Ianus

Ianus
MarkAusten said:
Besides, most of what you've listed is only supposition in your head.
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I have my sources, but most of what I listed is actually true. Whether or not Fdev is just bad at development is different from whether or not a game can sell. Even a poorly managed game can be profitable if you push enough shallow content without any attempts at playtesting or bugfixing or falsely market the game's scope. Player groups have proven that they know more about the game's mechanics and pushed bug reports even after the CMs said 'Oh hey, that is working as intended.' I.E. Bi-weave shields at horizons launch. Or the BGS working completely counter to what the devs intended for it to work and being forced with evidence to admit they did something stupid like a divide by zero error or failing to put in necessary CG content.

It took players complaining for them to add the last part of the DG puzzle even after certain people in the company said 'we have eyes on the spawn, it works'.
 
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Sir.Tj

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Ianus said:
I have my sources, but most of what I listed is actually true. Whether or not Fdev is just bad at development is different from whether or not a game can sell. Even a poorly managed game can be profitable if you push enough shallow content without any attempts at playtesting or bugfixing. Player groups have proven that they know more about the game's mechanics and pushed bug reports even after the CMs said 'Oh hey, that is working as intended.' I.E. Bi-weave shields at horizons launch.
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Please elaborate.... I'd love to hear your sources. :)

I suspect a million copies sold so far might negate your viewpoint.
 

Varrag

Varrag
It may be worth noting that ED is not the only game FDEV is working on. I am not even sure that it's their main source of income.
 

MarkAusten

MarkAusten
Ianus said:
I have my sources, but most of what I listed is actually true. Whether or not Fdev is just bad at development is different from whether or not a game can sell. Even a poorly managed game can be profitable if you push enough shallow content.
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I have to disagree with your there. These things have been talked to death in recent threads and it's quite obvious the some commanders think as you do whilst others think that there is no problem.

The issue always boils down to interpretation. What you would consider broken game mechanics is acceptable mechanics to someone else. The endless Open/Groups/Solo discussion being a case in point.

About the only one of your points that can be considered anywhere near correct is the first about bugs. Software always has bugs. There rest? Supposition.

Of course if you have proof, then post it. And by proof I don't mean 'everybody know' arguments or as you have already stated 'I have my sources', thats cop out. Real proof.

I'd love to you prove some of these things one way or another. I'd would stop a lot of arguments.

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Komemiute said:
Something loose is shaking and prone to fall off something.
Careful or you're goinge to lose it eventually.

Just saying.
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Must have lost it quite a while back then :)
 

Sir.Tj

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Ianus said:
I suppose it is true that the frontier forums are full of 'yes men' who accept whatever excretions come out of the back end of the company with open mouths.
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Not at all, there are many threads on the forum that are full of discussions on all aspects of the game good and bad.

As long as the post/thread adheres to the rules it stays.

So these sources you have, as mentioned before I'd love you to provide information on them. In-fact I insist. :)

And please remember not to make disparaging comments.
 

Andy Kappa

Andy Kappa
Can somebody remind me please: what's the definition of a troll?

I haven't played the game in over a year, and although I may well eventually, I have no immediate plans. I have no specific interest in either the company or the game. I do have an eye for people making mischief without cause though.

Further correspondence will not be entered into. Have a nice day.
 

Adept

Adept
Andy Kappa said:
Can somebody remind me please: what's the definition of a troll?

I haven't played the game in over a year, and although I may well eventually, I have no immediate plans. I have no specific interest in either the company or the game. I do have an eye for people making mischief without cause though.

Further correspondence will not be entered into. Have a nice day.
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PM from the OP?
 
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