Is it necessary to know which systems are already visited by others to make money?
- Thread starter TiSoBr
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Essentially you'll make money just not AS much as you would if it was completely undiscovered.
It's worth reminding you at this stage that it is not the first person to discover a system that gets the bonus but the first person to get BACK with the information
It's worth reminding you at this stage that it is not the first person to discover a system that gets the bonus but the first person to get BACK with the information
Welcome to Elite 
You might want to try Nutters Explorers Guide for some useful info. I usually don't bother scanning systems that are already tagged by another commander, and usually move on unless it is particularly interesting
You might want to try Nutters Explorers Guide for some useful info. I usually don't bother scanning systems that are already tagged by another commander, and usually move on unless it is particularly interesting
Welcome to Elite
You might want to try Nutters Explorers Guide for some useful info. I usually don't bother scanning systems that are already tagged by another commander, and usually move on unless it is particularly interesting
Hmmm yeah. Read it for the concepts, then forget it and do your thing. Long postings with professional videos do not increase the truth of the information. It is a GUIDE, too many people treat it like some holy text. No criticism of Nutter, just of some the worshipers.
I personally found it useful when starting out, therefore someone else might. I don't see any worshipping going on by linking to the thing. Just a bit of jealousy perhaps
I think a lot depends on where you are in the game, if you want to make money to get the medium or advanced scanner then anything that is uneplored for you will make money once you sell the data, if you have all the upgrades you want - you can then become more selective in what you scan - metalic, water, ELW etc or then just go for those with no tags - get YOUR name on them - there are plenty out there to do so. The game has so many different way to play - the choice is YOURS Commander.
Mal
Mal
Exploring isn't a good way to make money, so you probably want to think about why you are exploring before you head too far down the path of "what's the best value to scan". Revenue from Exploration is really for
1) getting a better explorer (maybe 25m for a top specced Asp, a lot more for the 'conda).
2) getting explorer ranking.
High value stellar exploration targets have largely been discovered in the "near" region as others have already scanned them, but you can still get good money from rescanning them. Sag A* is worth over 300k on its own if you get that far.
If you are just aiming to maximise return then there are belts of millions neutron stars to scan (search for Dognosh's thread on neutron stars and his holo guide). These are guaranteed sources of good value (unlike planetary bodies) - even when they've already been scanned by someone else. Activity searching the galactic map for those on your route is a good idea.
For planetary bodies you get 500 Cr for every body you pick up with the ADS. If you are only after maximising revenue then I suspect that after that potential ELWs water worlds, ammonia worlds and terraformables are really worth travelling any distance to scan. An ADS scan on another system will be more profitable and give an opportunity to find new high value targets. So jumping to a new system will probably give you a better return. I don't think there is a reliable method of detecting terraformable high metal content and rocky planets though, you can look at scanning only potentials in the goldilocks zone.
I think this is missing the point of exploring personally. Seeing new and unusual stuff, and getting to stick "I was here first" graffiti is what its really about
1) getting a better explorer (maybe 25m for a top specced Asp, a lot more for the 'conda).
2) getting explorer ranking.
High value stellar exploration targets have largely been discovered in the "near" region as others have already scanned them, but you can still get good money from rescanning them. Sag A* is worth over 300k on its own if you get that far.
If you are just aiming to maximise return then there are belts of millions neutron stars to scan (search for Dognosh's thread on neutron stars and his holo guide). These are guaranteed sources of good value (unlike planetary bodies) - even when they've already been scanned by someone else. Activity searching the galactic map for those on your route is a good idea.
For planetary bodies you get 500 Cr for every body you pick up with the ADS. If you are only after maximising revenue then I suspect that after that potential ELWs water worlds, ammonia worlds and terraformables are really worth travelling any distance to scan. An ADS scan on another system will be more profitable and give an opportunity to find new high value targets. So jumping to a new system will probably give you a better return. I don't think there is a reliable method of detecting terraformable high metal content and rocky planets though, you can look at scanning only potentials in the goldilocks zone.
I think this is missing the point of exploring personally. Seeing new and unusual stuff, and getting to stick "I was here first" graffiti is what its really about
I personally found it useful when starting out, therefore someone else might. I don't see any worshipping going on by linking to the thing. Just a bit of jealousy perhaps
I agree it is useful to read for some of the concepts, there is a lot of good and hard work gone into it, although I may disagree with some of it. I wasn't referring to you or anyone else in particular, I find that if I post a Warning about the Guide without a Justification, I just get slammed as a Heretic and it derails the thread.
I did have an urge to write an Advanced Guide for a long time, but then decided that:
a) It was against my principles that you should at least try to use your brain before asking for an answer on a plate
b) I really didnt need the ego boost
c) The supporters of other guides (there are several) would have had a feeding frenzy
Nutters guide is a good place to start, and a lot of the other bits and pieces are very helpful (the work on planetary sounds, the holo chart, neutron field locations). I think there would be some benefits in discussing some of the more advanced techniques, and how personal preferences impact the use of those.
For example, what do people find most efficient scooping strategy? How do people approach scanning? What strategies are used for navigating around systems efficiently? How to line up your ship for really good shots with the debug camera?
For example, what do people find most efficient scooping strategy? How do people approach scanning? What strategies are used for navigating around systems efficiently? How to line up your ship for really good shots with the debug camera?
I do take the time to explore all of a system, as the more information you get the more money you earn. I have got over 80Kcr from an in-bubble system. Make sure you get a Detailed Surface Scanner, as this augments the main Discovery Scanner (you need one of these to even 'see' the astronomical objects), and earns you a lot more credits. Which main Discovery Scanner you get is up to your preference for exploring. Some prefer to look for the parallax shift, so use Basic or Intermediate scanners, others want to find everything straight away, so buy the Advanced scanner (I get this one).
Philip Coutts
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I tend to scan everything discovered or not. The only time I don't is if something is so far away it would take ages to get there, I just can't see it being worth the time and effort to travel for ages to scan something that's already been done.
Woah, thank you all for your amazing responses!
Currently trying to do what you suggested to me, but ending up scanning everything in a galaxy via supercruise, jumping to the next one, rinse and repeat...
And then flying to the next valuable station/outpost to sell the collected data. Is that efficient?
Also I'm planning to write down the course I took somehow to see where I've been, where to go, etc... but I have to admit: it's somehow overwhelming.
Currently trying to do what you suggested to me, but ending up scanning everything in a galaxy via supercruise, jumping to the next one, rinse and repeat...
And then flying to the next valuable station/outpost to sell the collected data. Is that efficient?
Also I'm planning to write down the course I took somehow to see where I've been, where to go, etc... but I have to admit: it's somehow overwhelming.
You have to be 20ly away to sell the data, sell it when you like. As you are in human space, it should be easy enough to drop it off without too much wasted time.
Upgrade your scanners ASAP
If you install Slopey's BCP Tool, it will log your journey for you. There are others that do this too, but I like Slopey's
Upgrade your scanners ASAP
If you install Slopey's BCP Tool, it will log your journey for you. There are others that do this too, but I like Slopey's
Regarding Nutter's guide, the "How to avoid warping out in a star" video is outdated. Do not rely on it to prevent you from jumping in the middle of close binaries, the direction at which you arrive in a system is random instead of (as would be logical) depending on where you're coming from on the galaxy map.