Is it suspicious

[Archduke]

I admit that of course there are and have been many explorers for many months - some with highly tuned FSD and eagerly using every (legitimate) tool at their disposal.

I also appreciate that of course, White Dwarfs or Neutron Stars are going to be high priority targets for explorers.

However, I cannot help but feel it is somewhat strange that despite finding no other pre-discovered systems in the region - for the last few times I have discovered Neútron stars, these alone have been already discovred - although there is no other discoevered systems within over 500ly of them...

 

[Aura Lorell]

Have you considered the possibility that someone simply buckyballed to neutron stars without bothering scanning anything on all the other systems? Not sure what you find suspicious to be honest.

 

[Aura Lorell]

Also, have you considered that someone may have simply used neutron star supercharge to jump from neutron star to neutron star? This is very a efficient way of travelling especially when the neutron stars have secondary scoopables and your ship has a long range. I have done this myself quite a few times.

 

[shreddog]

although there is no other discoevered systems within over 500ly of them...

Figure of speech? I highly doubt you'd have time to check them all.. That's ALLOT of stars, unless you're in a very sparse region of the galaxy.

 

[Archduke]

Also, have you considered that someone may have simply used neutron star supercharge to jump from neutron star to neutron star? This is very a efficient way of travelling especially when the neutron stars have secondary scoopables and your ship has a long range. I have done this myself quite a few times.

This would be perfectly reasonable explanation, only tthe FSD boosts are gonna give (asume 90ly max) 360ly or so - and I was under the impression that the main star was scanned automatically.

My question was "is it suspicious?" not that I necessarily feel it is. I am curious as to whether I am in any way justified should I find it such.

 

[marx]

Not to mention that for a long time, neutron star farming was the fastest method of raising your exploration rank. Folks would powerlevel their rating by going out to the fields, and scanning nothing else. What you're seeing is likely the result of this.

 

[BDelacroix]

Unless I'm purposely exploring an area, I will often chain neutron jumps. Some of mine are along the "neutron highway". I either come up for air after a few jumps or find that a scoopable companion is in one of the neutron systems.

 

[Archduke]

Unless I'm purposely exploring an area, I will often chain neutron jumps. Some of mine are along the "neutron highway". I either come up for air after a few jumps or find that a scoopable companion is in one of the neutron systems.

Not to mention that for a long time, neutron star farming was the fastest method of raising your exploration rank. Folks would powerlevel their rating by going out to the fields, and scanning nothing else. What you're seeing is likely the result of this.

I fully understand plpayers hopping quicjĺy and seeking routes between Neutron stars and I get this. As stated I fully appreciate Neutron stars are a premium and many explorers have been at this for years - HOWEVER what I am questioning is how the surrounding systems can be absolutely devoid of any discovery at all - Or am I mistaken in the understanding that the primary body is stellar body scanned at a basic level by default merely by entering a system?

 

[aRottenKomquat]

The main star is NOT automatically scanned when you enter the system. You have to select it and point at it for a while to scan and tag it.

There are systems out there where I have intentionally tagged every object EXCEPT the main star. Just for fun, to make the next guy go "Wha...?" Or I'll do something like scan the L-type dwarf 400 kls out and ignore the main system. Ah the games you play when you've been out in the black for too long.

 

[Whitmann]

I've probably only scanned 10% of the stars I've jumped to, if that. I'm more about getting to places, usually. And neutrons, black holes and suchlike are the sorts of things explorers take detours for.

 

[Qohen Leth]

Or am I mistaken in the understanding that the primary body is stellar body scanned at a basic level by default merely by entering a system?

You are. Any scan requires a specific effort and an amount of time, which is only worth it, for a chunk of explorers, if there's money to be made. So, as they're much more numerous and easy to find than ELWs, Neutron Stars.

 

[Archduke]

The main star is NOT automatically scanned when you enter the system.

Thank you. That clears the matter up sufficiently for me.

The main star is NOT automatically scanned when you enter the system. You have to select it and point at it for a while to scan and tag it

Thank you too for your informative response.

 

[Charlie Hustle]

Yeah honestly for the most part, i never scan the main star. Im ususally trying to point away from it when i hop in or turn sideways to it to scoop. But, ill honk, then look at the system map, and see if i need to scan anything thats interesting.

 

[GunnerBill]

It's no conspiracy. I went a bazillion ly's to try and find undiscovered black holes and guess what...

You may think you've gone to some random out of the way place but chances are you're on the route to or from somewhere and some dude's been using the galmap to filter for all the things you're using it to filter for as well.

Eventually I did find my own little area of black holes and "virgin" territory but now when another explorer comes along he or she are gonna have to go that bit farther.

 

[duckofdeath]

When I did the Elite grind in 1.1-1.2, I only scanned neutron stars for a few thousand straight jumps. Several other CMDR's has done the same. It's not suspicious, it's just bad luck for you to end up in one of those locations.

 

[Galactic Fork]

Oh crap! They're onto us! Shut it down people! Shut it down!

 

[Sapyx]

Many explorers "cherry-pick" - they don't bother scanning anything except the highest-value objects: neutron stars, black holes, ELWs. No scans, no Tags.

I was exploring over in Qeajo sector a few months ago; it's off the regular tourist routes, not on a direct line to anywhere. Saw no other CMDR tags for a thousand LYs; saw no ELWs either. Finally found my first ELW in that sector... and it was already Tagged.

 

[varonica]

I fully understand plpayers hopping quicjĺy and seeking routes between Neutron stars and I get this. As stated I fully appreciate Neutron stars are a premium and many explorers have been at this for years - HOWEVER what I am questioning is how the surrounding systems can be absolutely devoid of any discovery at all - Or am I mistaken in the understanding that the primary body is stellar body scanned at a basic level by default merely by entering a system?

Perfectly normal, you have to realise that unless you are doing "economic route" any target system is going to be surrounded by system you haven't visited because your last jump is simply going to skip them, so unless you make a conscious decision to jump around to all the neighbouring systems to tag them they are not going to get discovered. So anyone aiming just to visit a Neutron star either out of curiosity or for boost purposes isn't going to stop at the immediately surrounding systems either on the way in or out unless they specifically make that decision to do so.

 

[relayer]

I found this in my travels - there are "highways." You're looking at the galactic map and certain features stand out as road signs and destinations; various nebula, clouds, waystars, and many people are more-or-less going to head towards them too. If I start getting a run of First Discoverer names, I'll replot slightly off to the side and maybe zig or zag up or down til I'm once more in a new/pristine area.

Also, I'm looking for some specific things (gas giants with life & ammonia worlds) and if there's nothing in the system I'm interested in, I go on to the next without exploring. However, if a system does have that type of planet (or ELWs or etc) I do "proper" exploration & scan everything, ice balls and all (maybe skip the red dwarf that's 294000ls out). I leave a lot of stuff behind that will be a good thing for another player to find/explore.

So it's possible to see a First Discovered By tag on the main star & still see it as "Unexplored" because the player just honked through.

 

[Krunchie]

... . although there is no other discoevered systems within over 500ly of them...

There is no way to know that, unless you've scanned every system within 500 ly. The majority of explorers are still not using any tools like EDDiscovery, unfortunately. Or this forums.