Is resetting the instance a exploit?
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From what I remember of the response in the bug report, yes.
yes, make the most of it while you can, if that's what you want. FD don't tend to punish ppl for making use of their failures.
cause thats what I'm doing! Exccept can't find Pharma Isolators
mat .. traders ...
Agree, but why do 6 to 1 when I can get 1-1, and max it out. I'd never need any more PIs ever again!
Because there are no Outbreak systems until the BGS settles.
Sterling MH
Banned
Is resetting the instance a exploit? YES.
If it were not, either you would not be able to do it, or it would not be needed. What is a better question is whether it is egregious enough to close as a bug or game balance issue. For that, depends on what you are resetting the instance for.
But here's a thing to wonder: if, for example, you swap instances to farm G5 materials you need via the only option possible other than just a long tired wait for the "right mission", would you instance reset if you didn't have to do that but could buy G5 mats instead outright? if not, then it is clearly an exploit and doesn't need to be there. If your need for G5 mats were sorted elsewhere.
For example, what if G5 mats were a reward for CQC?
If it were not, either you would not be able to do it, or it would not be needed. What is a better question is whether it is egregious enough to close as a bug or game balance issue. For that, depends on what you are resetting the instance for.
But here's a thing to wonder: if, for example, you swap instances to farm G5 materials you need via the only option possible other than just a long tired wait for the "right mission", would you instance reset if you didn't have to do that but could buy G5 mats instead outright? if not, then it is clearly an exploit and doesn't need to be there. If your need for G5 mats were sorted elsewhere.
For example, what if G5 mats were a reward for CQC?
What's your explanation for Dav's Hope then ? That's abused all and sundry, and has never been fixed even tho it's common knowledge.
Dav's hope is not a USS and predates the current update.
If I remember correctly Dav's does not have top grade mats, and they are somewhat random.
USS relogs is just 'give me more HG mats', so is OP. And is the result of a bug.
A better question is why Jameson's Cobra is still giving out best data mats in large quantities, but hey, whatever.
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Ah so any of these things that predate 3.3 are good to exploit? Good to know
It's not working as intended and has been confirmed, it's an exploit. If you want to do it whilst you can fill your boots,
As for Davs hope and resetting Res etc exploit or not it highlights a terrible design flaw. Imo if done right we should not feel the need to reset instances.
The game letting you do it is a very poor excuse - you know it's not meant to be that way, and so does everyone else.
Relogging always has been and still is an exploit.
However, some poor gameplay mechanisms make it the most effective way to do certain things.
Wow! 3 jumps from home and it's CIF candy. Don't even need to go into turret mode.
Sterling MH
Banned
I wasn;t excusing it. I was saying if it were NOT an exploit, you would not be able to EXPLOIT it, by defniition. So if you can't do it, it isn't an exploit, if you can, it might be. If it's not within the game (which means you cannot go back to the game interface and relog, for example, since that is outside the game, not in it), then it is also an exploit.
But "exploit" is a fairly meaningless word if you just ask as vaguely as the OP did. Logging out so I can take a pee is an exploit. I don't risk losing my ship whlst busy doing "real life" things like urination. However since this is a game and NOT an actual pilot situation, going offline and shutting it all down is not seen as exploiting to my uneven benefit.
So, like I said, the better question is whether some specific thing should be done by any form of exploit.
At no pont did I say it was fine to play an exploit "because the game lets you". The game lets me log off to pee. And that is fine. Exploiting the game interface, but nobody cares, and "the game lets you" is 100% valid. the game lets you pull the cord out of the wall (can't stop you in fact), and if that happens because someone pulled the wrong plug out, this is not an exploit. If I do it because I wanted to grief someone but they turned the tables, almost everyone agrees that this is NOT fine.
Depends on what the exploit is and WHY you do it.
Doing it to get the right mission rewards for a G5 mat indicates a problem somewhere else.
Eiiher the one demanding G5 mats faster than "they need" or if that need is valid to some degree, then the need should be filled by a non exploit method. E.g. making them rewards for CQC.
After all high level engineering is mostly a requirement to PvP, and that's what CQC is for, so it fits the need.
Exploits are allowed by the game. Full stop. It's not the allowing by game that makes one exploit fine when another isn't. It's why it happened. How it happened. Not what happened so much.