General / Off-Topic is scotland leaving the UK?
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It may come back down to spears and axes...
I was about to be insulted, but realized this was funny as hell and accurate.
The Scottish parliament has just spent a few months debating weather to call another independence referendum and voted to go for it again. Then our glorious dictator Mrs May replied NO in about 30 seconds.
It is funny, May says 'now is not the time'. If Sturgeon had any sense, she should ask May, OK if not now, then when?
It is funny, May says 'now is not the time'. If Sturgeon had any sense, she should ask May, OK if not now, then when?
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When they are already out. The joke is, that might be even better, in terms of independence the shock UK will going to have empowers the independence movement.
As I said in the Brexit thread - all of the "this is not the time" stuff is just hand waving nonsense that's dutifully repeated ad nauseum by the media. Nobody is saying have it NOW, but have it when it's clear what Brexit means and people can see the two options. If article 50 is triggered when everybody thinks it will be then that fits perfectly with the timescale that Nicola Sturgeon proposed.
Sturgeon does not really want the independence. What would she do with it ?
Well if you lived in the UK you would know, Sturgeon has said, she will wait to the Brexit deal to be more clearer then ask for a referendum if She , not the Scottish people, like it or not. She has been saying it on the news for the last three days.
SNP wanted a referendum regardless of Brexit , that is after all the main aim of the SNP in politics to keep having votes until one day Scots vote out and if the SNP lose the next vote, which seems likely based on the polls, they will find and excuse to have another one within 5 years.
Now If they allowed the English to vote they would happily kick them out. We would then Drag all our buisness and military down south causing 10, 000s of people out of work in Scotland, then refuse them currency union, because if we give them it and they fail, we, the rest of UK have to bail them out.
They have 5 million people 2.8 are adults, how on earth will they survive without selling their souls to the EU.
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Read in the french press, this evening --- "If Sturgeon succeeds in organizing a new referendum, it will remain for her, to convince the Scots. According to a survey, only 44% are in favor of independence.
Norway is five million, Denmark is 5.6, Finland 5.4.
Does selling ones soul to the EU make one happy and prosperous? Maybe we Nordics did that then? It's working out quite nicely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report
Good to see the "too wee" trope is still being trotted out! That takes me back. There are plenty countries, both within and without the EU, with population sizes similar to or smaller than Scotland's which do just fine. Almost none of them have anything like our resources, either.
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Well. I think her Answer will simply be then we hold one anyways.
Erm.
Well Join the EU.
Become a Prosperous small Nation inside the EU similar to Belgium, Sweden, Luxembourg, Ireland, Netherlands etc etc
If you look at the other Nations of Scotlands Size in the EU. I dont think thats such a Bad Outlook to be honest ?
How come they get to say no, btw which witch is which?
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Well. I think her Answer will simply be then we hold one anyways.
Erm.
Well Join the EU.
Become a Prosperous small Nation inside the EU similar to Belgium, Sweden, Luxembourg, Ireland, Netherlands etc etc
If you look at the other Nations of Scotlands Size in the EU. I dont think thats such a Bad Outlook to be honest ?
Ireland, Iceland, didn't they go bust just lately?
May is the British P.M. Sturgeon is the Scottish first minister
Iceland isn't an EU member.
Thanks for clearing up which witch is which. I had the good fortune to sound engineer Nicola in the Edinburgh Festival last year and, extraordinary hair do and securitaty apart, I found her to be a genuine article.
I dont know about Iceland. And its not an EU Member anymore.
So if it went Bust afterwards thats their own fault.
Ireland is doing pretty well in its Recovery.
https://www.ft.com/content/78310ab0-244e-3c78-b0d7-72911d796db3
It was hit by the Financial Crisis and its surely not all Sunshine now.
But compared to other small Countries outside the EU its doing Incredible Good.
And even inside the EU. It is recovering at an good Pace.
Compare it to other Countries of that Size in the World.
Well the few ones which are not in Civil War or Suppressed by Bigger Neighbors etc
An article from the deputy editor of the Newsletter, a staunchly unionist newspaper pointing out the demographic reality regarding the North of Ireland and Irish unity,
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opi...-say-1-7872313.
Regarding Scotland all the youth are 70+% in favour of indy making change inevitable, such is the trajectory of the UK before you even factor Brexit.
I posted this in the Brexit thread but its relevant to here.
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opi...-say-1-7872313.
Regarding Scotland all the youth are 70+% in favour of indy making change inevitable, such is the trajectory of the UK before you even factor Brexit.
I posted this in the Brexit thread but its relevant to here.