IL 2 Sturmovik? Picked up this at a really cheap price so I can test out my x52 while I wait for standard beta. From how people are talking here it seems very similar. If you want to turn you roll one way and pull down or up. Twist controls small rudder movements left or right. Dog fighting is difficult because you need to look at the map and predict where the other guy will go and make adjustments in order to intercept on an attack vector without exposing yourself to other attackers. Very difficult if you are facing an unpredictable foe. I'm guessing the space ships have a lot more maneuverability than WW2 war planes though.