Is there a reason to pick the FAS over the FDS?

jjadned

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From what I've seen there is no reason to pick the FAS over the FDS. They both have the same ship specs other than hard points and internals. When you look at the hard points you have 2 large and 2 medium vs 1 large and 4 mediums. 2 mediums are about equal to a large if not better in my eyes... the dropship is better internal wise also. While I have the money and fed rank for both I don't see a reason not to go for the cheaper FDS over his big brother.

I am looking for a PVE combat ship that can do other things too. I am planning on having the large hardpoimts beams and the mediums multis on both ships
 
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Morbad

Morbad
The dropship can be made pretty potent, but the FAS is significantly faster, which is a non-trivial advantage.
 

CMDR Corlas

CMDR Corlas
jjadned said:
From what I've seen there is no reason to pick the FAS over the FDS. They both have the same ship specs other than hard points and internals. When you look at the hard points you have 2 large and 2 medium vs 1 large and 4 mediums. 2 mediums are about equal to a large if not better in my eyes... the dropship is better internal wise also. While I have the money and fed rank for both I don't see a reason not to go for the cheaper FDS over his big brother.
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FAS is faster, more agile, and has more range. FDS has more internals, and has technically better firepower, but the the FAS is more distributor efficient. It's a pretty close call, imo. Depends on which feels better in your hands.
 

Drownerfood

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jjadned said:
I am looking for a PVE combat ship that can do other things too. I am planning on having the large hardpoimts beams and the mediums multis on both ships
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The FAS is more combat focused. If you're looking for more multi-purpose the FDS might be better. I would recommend multicannons on the large HP for the FAS, at least. The medium spots have limited firing arc.
 

NascentChemist

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The differences between the FDS and FAS can't be seen easily on paper. But the FAS is almost immeasurably better when it comes to combat. My "driftship" is a lot of fun to fly around, the FAS is almost a bigger, faster version of a Vulture. Seriously, that statement is not hyperbole: my FAS handles almost as well as my Vulture, has more hardpoints, and is faster to boot! Its got a fraction of the drift that the dropship has. It's got stronger shields and hull as well. It's got plenty of internals for any combat oriented ship. You can also get decent jump range on the FAS, bring an SRV/ADS for planetary missions, and vaporize any pirates that hassle you. The only thing the FDS can do better is haul lots of cargo.

Also, don't discount trading 2 medium hardpoints for 1 large. Once 2.3 rolls around, decent piercing values will be more important than ever.

I'd recommend you use the FDS as a cargo hauler for a few hours. Then, and only then, take the FAS for a spin. Trust me: fly the ship and you'll see the difference. I imagine once the UK folks are awake again you'll get a deluge of praise for the assault ship.
 

Monk

Monk
I've not flown any of them, though I've fought quite a few of them in RES sites. I'll think twice and maybe wait for a little help if I see an Elite FAS. Whereas, any rank on a FDS can be seen as a very winnable fight in PvE. FGS falls somewhere in the middle, and becomes more potent if they are packing a fighter hangar.
 

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One of the most notable differences : the Flight Model.

The DropShip isn't called the Federal DriftShip(tm) for no reason :D
Being able to circle-strafe a Target at full Throttle - all while FA ON - is a very distinct difference to the FAS, which just goes where you point it. And the FAS does so very fast, even at 0 Pips ENG (FAS doens't care much about that).
 
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Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
jjadned said:
From what I've seen there is no reason to pick the FAS over the FDS. They both have the same ship specs other than hard points and internals. When you look at the hard points you have 2 large and 2 medium vs 1 large and 4 mediums. 2 mediums are about equal to a large if not better in my eyes... the dropship is better internal wise also. While I have the money and fed rank for both I don't see a reason not to go for the cheaper FDS over his big brother.

I am looking for a PVE combat ship that can do other things too. I am planning on having the large hardpoimts beams and the mediums multis on both ships
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With out being arrogant, I imply you, CMDR, to look over the stats again, you seem to have missed a few points.
I will help you :):
The FAS has a much, much higher speed than the FDS, it is so much more agile and responding than the FDS. When modded for combat the FAS is a right out killing machine, the FDS is just another target.
The FAS is a Vulture on steroids. With immense armor. It loves the "Ram- Atam" dance, and can do it too.
Back to Coriolis, and pay attention, Padawan :)

Cheers Cmdr's
 
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Bortas

Bortas
Comrade Napoleon said:
the FDS is just another target.
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I have to disagree on this assumption... please see https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/281331-Dropship-Club?p=5297760&viewfull=1#post5297760
The opponents are all seasoned PvP'ers.

Rinzler has several vids proving the FDS' abilities, too.

Back to OP: It's mostly a question of personal preference. As has been stated the FAS is faster and more maneuverable, the FDS is more durable and has somewhat better hardpoints. It also has a very unique flight charecteristics, earning it the nickname "Federal Driftship", which can be used to one's advantage.
 
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Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
Bortas said:
I have to disagree on this assumption... please see https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/281331-Dropship-Club?p=5297760&viewfull=1#post5297760
The opponents are all seasoned PvP'ers.

Rinzler has several vids proving the FDS' abilities, too.

Back to OP: It's mostly a question of personal preference. As has been stated the FAS is faster and more maneuverable, the FDS is more durable and has somewhat better hardpoints. It also has a very unique flight charecteristics, earning it the nickname "Federal Driftship", which can be used to one's advantage.
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Absolutely, CMDR Bortas, but the OP is not a seasoned PVP'er, he would not have asked here if he was, amirite?
Any ship is bad news in the hand of an experienced player.
Now for an easy to go to, flyable, potential lethal ship, the FAS wins by far in my opinion.
On another note, the playstyle associated with playing the FAS will certainly make you a much better pilot. Frag cannons, getting into position out of reach of victim, staying there, delivering your payload, once twice...game over.
The FAS's high agility goads you into trying all sorts of manoeuvres, circle strafe, pitch strafe, diagonal strafe (difficult) all sorts, why ? Because the FAS is so forgiving to fly.
When modded it becomes even more "living" and considering its massive mass, huge armor, it is a opponent to respect.
Figthing a FAS can be difficult, an option is to make an alpha strike on it for as long as the capacitor holds, and keep it at distance if you can.
Other CMDR's can better eleborate on this than me.
 

jjadned

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Comrade Napoleon said:
With out being arrogant, I imply you, CMDR, to look over the stats again, you seem to have missed a few points.
I will help you :):
The FAS has a much, much higher speed than the FDS, it is so much more agile and responding than the FDS. When modded for combat the FAS is a right out killing machine, the FDS is just another target.
The FAS is a Vulture on steroids. With immense armor. It loves the "Ram- Atam" dance, and can do it too.
Back to Coriolis, and pay attention, Padawan :)

Cheers Cmdr's
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Didn't check the speed difference on coriolis as ED:shipyard doesn't factor in ship speed.
 

Ceekay

Ceekay
They are similar looking ships but fly quite differently and require different tactics in combat, used correctly they can all be surprisingly potent, here's a Coriolis comparison of them, weapon fits are constantly changing (especially on the FGS) but if you play to the strength of each ship you'll not go too far wrong.

https://coriolis.edcd.io/compare/FAS vs FDS vs FGS
 

bubbabenali

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Yea, thes FAS is more like the big brother of the Vulture, heaving more fire power lesser power plant problems while being as agile as it's little brother.

The FDS is a weaponized medium sized transporter that has funny drift mechanics and is good as a entrance into minig for many ppl.
That said if you can compensate the drift the FDS is a valuable combat ship too, but a FAS is just better at that
 

Ceekay

Ceekay
It's also worth noting that the FGS and FDS can fit class 6 shields instead of the class 5 in the FAS, class 6 shields have 30% higher regen rates (standard shields) and 45% higher regen rates (bi-weave shields), I know I'd buy that for a dollar! ;)
 

golden_eye

golden_eye
The FAS is amazing. I run a large beam on the top and 3 PAs on the bottom (everything fixed of course) and it's a ton of fun. Engineering has only made it better.

People say it's like a vulture on steroids but they are missing one important point: the vulture is more of a shield tank whereas the FAS is a hull tank. I run a hybrid build with biweaves but between 1800 hull hp and MRPs losing your shields is just an annoyance. It takes an adjustment to get used to.
 

CMDR Ahab

CMDR Ahab
Dropship is a superb workhorse whilst the Assault ship is essentially an Vulture with worse Shields and a hell of a lot more armour. Both are superb rammers.;)
 
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