Is there a reason to pick the FAS over the FDS?

Quiquag · Mar 28, 2017

golden_eye said:
The FAS is amazing. I run a large beam on the top and 3 PAs on the bottom (everything fixed of course) and it's a ton of fun. Engineering has only made it better.

People say it's like a vulture on steroids but they are missing one important point: the vulture is more of a shield tank whereas the FAS is a hull tank. I run a hybrid build with biweaves but between 1800 hull hp and MRPs losing your shields is just an annoyance. It takes an adjustment to get used to.

I recently sold my FDL in favor of my FAS. (FDL was going to be the upgrade from my FAS) but...just couldn't like the FDL. Then first fight in the FAS 5 v 1 (PvE) my shields dropped and I had that brief moment of "Oh crap" before I remembered I was in my FAS...and laughed as they barely scratched my hull while I took them out.

Ended the fight with 78% of my hull left, almost the entire fight shield-less. It made me happy.

Darth Crispy · Mar 28, 2017

FDS Hull tanking Beast (5000 armor) FAS Speed Demon (Armor 2-3k 250 shields) FGS (2500 armor 200 shields+Fighter) They are good ships but i'll take my python over any of them (1000-1600 shields 4000 armor)

IndigoWyrd · Mar 28, 2017

FDS is a better mining ship.
FAS is a better combat ship.
FGS can use fighters.

All three look like something used to hold a door open.

Ashnak · Mar 28, 2017

IndigoWyrd said:
...

All three look like something used to hold a door open.

More like something to get a door open...

[video=youtube;u9BinUHHPv0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9BinUHHPv0[/video]

metatheurgist · Mar 28, 2017

IndigoWyrd said:
All three look like something used to hold a door open.

...with extreme prejudice.

AgamemnonWhen · Mar 28, 2017

I'm starting to like the sound of the FAS. I love the aesthetic of Fed ships, and I'm about to clear Chief Petty Officer.

The real question for me is get myself a FAS for bounty hunting NPCs, or stick with the Fightin' Python?!

jjadned · Mar 29, 2017

AgamemnonWhen said:
I'm starting to like the sound of the FAS. I love the aesthetic of Fed ships, and I'm about to clear Chief Petty Officer.

The real question for me is get myself a FAS for bounty hunting NPCs, or stick with the Fightin' Python?!

I got my last night and put on the hardpoints and utilities and took it out. It feels really good to fly, I don't even have any thrusters modded on it just the 6E. This is the build I'm looking at https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/fed.../v5AfNwODyDcgIbECKPj/PwDELmRCPAAAAA==&bn=FAS It's a combat ship that maybe once you engineer the crap out of it could PVP (rails with feedback to counter SCB) I did cut corners when it comes to it so anything that's not A fit, I would A fit but the SCB cause having 10 in total is really nice.

Comrade Napoleon · Mar 29, 2017

jjadned said:
I got my last night and put on the hardpoints and utilities and took it out. It feels really good to fly, I don't even have any thrusters modded on it just the 6E. This is the build I'm looking at https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/fed.../v5AfNwODyDcgIbECKPj/PwDELmRCPAAAAA==&bn=FAS It's a combat ship that maybe once you engineer the crap out of it could PVP (rails with feedback to counter SCB) I did cut corners when it comes to it so anything that's not A fit, I would A fit but the SCB cause having 10 in total is really nice.

You dont use SCB's on FAS!! Why, but Why ??
Just a good shield and a single booster, internals only HRP and MRP.
Thrusters must be A.as PP. as Thrusters
Where is the Frag cannon, where ?
Heatsinks are for sissies, FAS need no heatsink
Fuel scoop in combat is no-no!
Vehicle hanger in combat? Are you going to road kill them ?
A good life support, because you WILL loose your canopy. check!
General advice: only ever A or D components, ever.

There set to go

Cheers Cmdr's

Truesilver · Mar 29, 2017

OP, if you check out my thread here ...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...aw-for-Every-Ship-in-Game-Official-FDev-Stats

... you'll see max (unmodded) speed, boost, pitch, roll and yaw for ever ship in the game. These are official figures. I also include a link in the opening post that will take you to player-tested lateral thruster stats.

Hence you can see what the ship's internals don't tell you about its manoeuvrability.

jjadned · Mar 29, 2017

Comrade Napoleon said:
You dont use SCB's on FAS!! Why, but Why ??
Just a good shield and a single booster, internals only HRP and MRP.

Cheers Cmdr's

I have a ton of HRP already, when doing PVE MRP don't matter to much unless your runnning away. I want my shields to a point of my defense too. A PVE hull tank has to go back to the station more than a mix of the two.

Comrade Napoleon · Mar 29, 2017

jjadned said:
I have a ton of HRP already, when doing PVE MRP don't matter to much unless your runnning away. I want my shields to a point of my defense too. A PVE hull tank has to go back to the station more than a mix of the two.

You are doing it wrong, I am sorry. A well flown FAS rarely has to go back. You are a brawler now, you get in close, use it superb handling, up close 100 meters and shoot, or ram them to death!! yes!! A 'Conda full shields takes 3 - 4 Rams to die.
Try what I suggested, you will not be disappointed. Frag cannon, did I say.. yes learn to use it, close range it is the hardest hitter.
Sneak up on your pray, open fire at close, very close range, and stay there, 95% cant shake you of.

Cheers Cmdr's

CMDR Ahab · Mar 29, 2017

Only shield generators that should be used on a Fast are Bi-weave personally - Can still get a decent strength with good secondaries and a single heavy duty.

Then again if I had any say in the matter at all, I'd remove Scbs from the game entirely and make the only available shield generators D rated and Bi-weave

jjadned · Mar 29, 2017

Comrade Napoleon said:
You are doing it wrong, I am sorry. A well flown FAS rarely has to go back. You are a brawler now, you get in close, use it superb handling, up close 100 meters and shoot, or ram them to death!! yes!! A 'Conda full shields takes 3 - 4 Rams to die.
Try what I suggested, you will not be disappointed. Frag cannon, did I say.. yes learn to use it, close range it is the hardest hitter.
Sneak up on your pray, open fire at close, very close range, and stay there, 95% cant shake you of.

Cheers Cmdr's

I have always enjoyed using Frag but the problem is taking on wings, anyone with a fighter bay, or a fast ship can hit me from afar.

jjadned · Mar 29, 2017

DelayedReality said:
Only shield generators that should be used on a Fast are Bi-weave personally - Can still get a decent strength with good secondaries and a single heavy duty.

Then again if I had any say in the matter at all, I'd remove Scbs from the game entirely and make the only available shield generators D rated and Bi-weave

That's why I have SCB, if you can't beat em join em.

Quiquag · Mar 29, 2017

My bounty fitting is a large PA on top, and three pulse cannons for the rest.

Why? Because I don't want to run out of ammo, and my opening salvo with the PA can take out the shields in no time.

jjadned · Mar 29, 2017

Quiquag said:
My bounty fitting is a large PA on top, and three pulse cannons for the rest.

Why? Because I don't want to run out of ammo, and my opening salvo with the PA can take out the shields in no time.

The thing is with that is that while you have 3 1/2 thermal you only have 1/2 kinetic meaning if your run into a hull heavy ship your not going to be able to do all that much other than snipe modules