Is there any reason at all to not filter out all the stars besides main sequence ones when exploring for money?

As I understand it the Stellar Forge can technically put ELWs, THMCs, TWWs, and TAWs in orbit around essentially anything, but it is far more likely to place them around the main sequence stars rather than any other type.


So if you are out exploring and your goal is money you should definitely be using the filter to plot out your routes right? That way you have the highest possible chance to find the valuable worlds you are looking for? Or is there something I am missing?
 
As I understand it the Stellar Forge can technically put ELWs, THMCs, TWWs, and TAWs in orbit around essentially anything, but it is far more likely to place them around the main sequence stars rather than any other type.


So if you are out exploring and your goal is money you should definitely be using the filter to plot out your routes right? That way you have the highest possible chance to find the valuable worlds you are looking for? Or is there something I am missing?

No, the most valuable systems are often those odd systems with a Neutron star as the primary and others as secondary, what happens then is that you get a much larger goldilocks zone and more valuable bodies, for instance this is one of my most valuable systems;

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Two WW, two ELW, three HMC, all terraformable, value with first discovery and mapping and efficiency bonus around 25-30m. That's only possible because the neutron star extends the goldilocks zone to a ridiculous distances.
 
No, the most valuable systems are often those odd systems with a Neutron star as the primary and others as secondary, what happens then is that you get a much larger goldilocks zone and more valuable bodies, for instance this is one of my most valuable systems;

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Two WW, two ELW, three HMC, all terraformable, value with first discovery and mapping and efficiency bonus around 25-30m. That's only possible because the neutron star extends the goldilocks zone to a ridiculous distances.

Okay thank you.


Also that Picture?

 
Maximum possible value for singular systems, perhaps. But if one is looking for credits first and foremost, then the best would be maximum average value for multiple systems, no? On the whole, it doesn't matter much if you find a single well-paying system if the other fifty didn't offer much.

If so, then that would probably be class F (and perhaps A) stars, with their abundance of WWTCs and ELWs. Plus HMCPTCs, if you're willing to put in the time to look for those too.
 
To maximize credits while exploring, you want to filter out the star classes which are most likely to give nothing but iceball planets. So, get rid of brown dwarfs, T Tauris, class M and class K. Keep the rest.

Note: eliminating Class M and Class K will also eliminate the possibility of randomly finding Class M and Class K giants, which are also in the usually-iceball-free category. But there's no way to automatically filter for giants/not-giants. Only way to spot a giant is to go to Realistic map mode and look for their distinctive Realistic icons manually.
 
Maximum possible value for singular systems, perhaps. But if one is looking for credits first and foremost, then the best would be maximum average value for multiple systems, no? On the whole, it doesn't matter much if you find a single well-paying system if the other fifty didn't offer much.

If so, then that would probably be class F (and perhaps A) stars, with their abundance of WWTCs and ELWs. Plus HMCPTCs, if you're willing to put in the time to look for those too.

How many systems with a red dwarf and 9 icy planets would it take to make up 30m credits, don't bother I've done it already, around 600, and 600 by my jump range makes 39kly. By picking out neutron stars and black holes as I travel I can way more than double the money earned while traveling and scanning and I find a lot of interesting systems, that's not the only one I have found like that. The thing is most of the galaxy is empty, and most of the systems are going to be a single star or two worth around 50k, you only have to find a few systems like the above to make it worth doing.

Fact is I don't filter anything, but I plot my routes trying to end at specific star types. O class, black holes, neutron stars, maybe the occasional B class, I've just done a loop around the galaxy and expect to pick up a billion in exploration rewards, maybe a million in codex rewards, high energy stars also give the opportunity to find biology and lagrange clouds, and Raxxla just might be orbiting that brown dwarf you decided to filter out.

But then I am out here to see what I can find, it would seem, even if your argument is correct, I'm not saying it isn't, I would have to do the maths based on my current data, that filtering out systems based on how much they might be worth isn't the way I want to explore, so in the end it does come down to personal preference as much as anything else.
 
Bear in mind that the further up the star class you go, the further you have to travel in system to reach a planet, if detailed surface scanning is your intention. This is also true for neutron stars. I do not exclude any of the main sequence stars because I'm essentially an explorer but if I was looking to make money from exploration then I would look at G,F,A as they seem to produce the most terraformable water and high metal worlds.
 
Exploring for money? You're doing it wrong.. ;)

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I disagree. There is no wrong way to play, and ships don't buy themselves. People should be able to play the way the want without being the target of this sort of elitist nonsense. A winking emoji doesn't make it okay.
 
I disagree. There is no wrong way to play, and ships don't buy themselves. People should be able to play the way the want without being the target of this sort of elitist nonsense. A winking emoji doesn't make it okay.
A winking emoji does it make very okay as it marks the statement as humor/satire. :)

Still, has someone made some calculations if it's more lucrative to just FSS a system and move on, or is "cherry Mapping" worth the time?
 
Still, has someone made some calculations if it's more lucrative to just FSS a system and move on, or is "cherry Mapping" worth the time?
You know, I was just thinking about that. Even simply scanning a system and not pewpewing any planets will get you a lot of credits these days, so I wonder what the difference will be. I'll give a go at calculating it later. The chief problem is estimating the times required for various actions, of course.

A good point made was that with the more luminous stars, you generally have to travel farther to find the "valuable" planets. However, that's not a factor if you're only scanning.

How many systems with a red dwarf and 9 icy planets would it take to make up 30m credits, don't bother I've done it already, around 600, and 600 by my jump range makes 39kly.
I'm sorry, I'm having a bit of trouble understanding your post. However, this scenario you just drew up was explicitly not the one that I wrote and you quoted. The relevant part was: "[if it's maximising average credits per multiple systems] If so, then that would probably be class F (and perhaps A) stars, with their abundance of WWTCs and ELWs. Plus HMCPTCs, if you're willing to put in the time to look for those too."
 
You know, I was just thinking about that. Even simply scanning a system and not pewpewing any planets will get you a lot of credits these days, so I wonder what the difference will be. I'll give a go at calculating it later. The chief problem is estimating the times required for various actions, of course.
Yes, its difficult to estimate.
For each mapped body you more or less should be able to FSS another average system.

By touch (and to get that thread back ontopic :D)
I would say to get the most out of exploration credit/hour-wise the cash-cows are FSSed (t)HMCs !?
But I dont know if you can boost your odds with some kind of star type filter to get more tHMCs ;)
 
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