Is there something wrong with the Stellar Forge?
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I'm more dusturbed by a 99.3% silicate atmosphere.
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The last 10% of the atmosphere is probably 'sick vape clouds.'
I found this guy recently -- CFT planet with no atmosphere:
I found this guy recently -- CFT planet with no atmosphere:
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Well, wouldn't no atmosphere be a good thing for terraforming. You'd just have to transfer it, or the means and materials to produce it. Blank slate. Depending on the technology anyway. It's all just BSSM at this point.
Check the temperature and atmosphere of that first planet! The atmosphere is evaporated rock! No wonder its heavy.
Is it a case where any suitable sized rocky/metallic planet in the habitable zone is a candidate for terraforming regardless of current conditions?
I think so actually, I'm pretty sure there was a thread about it not too long ago showing it was more gravity and location. Mars is a bit of an outlier since its gravity is so low, but I think that's because we're willing to put more effort to Terraform Mars simply out of principle.
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I like to think that the differences in physics are linked somehow to our ability to hyperspace and fly in space dogfights. 
What kind of a "sick" planet is this:
Can I have some hot ice creams please
That's 2600 degrees Fahrenheit, 1400 degrees Celsius.... how is that thing not a puddle of water?
2 and a bit million atmospheres of pressure. Ice needs to be pretty damn hot to melt under that pressure.
All the planets listed in this thread so far, while thye are extreme, are not physics-defying or logic-defying.
And this is what happens when you take a Venus-class supergreenhouse and make it even bigger and hotter. The rock itself goes from molten to boiling and enters the atmosphere. The only thing "illogical" about it is how it looks; the stellar forge can;t handle super-dense atmospheres of solid planets. In reality, this thing would probably look more like a Class IV gas giant.
I believe only the "top three" atmospheric constituents are listed. So, presumably this planet has 10% "something else". THe illogicality here, rather, is the weirdness the Stellar Forge has with methane-ammonia-nitrogen mixtures. I've seen far too many worlds where the percentages of these three components are always identical. In this case, they're all 30%. I've seen these worlds range from 30% up to 33%, and the methane-ammonia-nitrogen ratio is always 1:1:1. That's definitely non-random.
The presence or absence of air is irrelevant for terraforming purposes. It's possible to have a "no atmosphere" (and therefore landable) planet be terraformable. All you need for a planet to qualify as a CFT is the right gravity/mass (not too high or low) and the right baseline-temperature (ie the temperature the planet would have if it had a normal Earth-like atmosphere).
And this is what happens when you take a Venus-class supergreenhouse and make it even bigger and hotter. The rock itself goes from molten to boiling and enters the atmosphere. The only thing "illogical" about it is how it looks; the stellar forge can;t handle super-dense atmospheres of solid planets. In reality, this thing would probably look more like a Class IV gas giant.
I believe only the "top three" atmospheric constituents are listed. So, presumably this planet has 10% "something else". THe illogicality here, rather, is the weirdness the Stellar Forge has with methane-ammonia-nitrogen mixtures. I've seen far too many worlds where the percentages of these three components are always identical. In this case, they're all 30%. I've seen these worlds range from 30% up to 33%, and the methane-ammonia-nitrogen ratio is always 1:1:1. That's definitely non-random.
The presence or absence of air is irrelevant for terraforming purposes. It's possible to have a "no atmosphere" (and therefore landable) planet be terraformable. All you need for a planet to qualify as a CFT is the right gravity/mass (not too high or low) and the right baseline-temperature (ie the temperature the planet would have if it had a normal Earth-like atmosphere).
7.7 million atmospheres. I'd be curious to see what an atmosphere of silicate and iron vapor looks like.
Update: 10 million atmospheres. Fun times.
Second Update: 18 million atmospheres -- almost 85% iron vapor!
Update: 10 million atmospheres. Fun times.
Second Update: 18 million atmospheres -- almost 85% iron vapor!
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I'm pretty sure temperatures can't get that high (> 2000K) for planets - Venus is about 450-500°C (and not hotter) because it's reached an equilibrium where the heat that goes in is balanced by heat that escapes (the greenhouse effect isn't 100% perfect there, even with a dense mostly CO2 atmosphere). The same should happen on other planets too. Ones that are too close to their stars should lose their atmospheres anyway due to the heat and stellar wind so any greenhouse effect from those wouldn't happen. (gas giants are a different matter - they're big enough to retain their atmospheres even in torch orbits, though even they have trouble in some cases)
The pressures are ridiculous. 10 million atm pressure is higher than the pressure inside Jupiter's core for crying out loud (which is "only" 2 million atms). For terrestrial worlds they need to cap that out at 1000 atms or something sane like that.
The pressures are ridiculous. 10 million atm pressure is higher than the pressure inside Jupiter's core for crying out loud (which is "only" 2 million atms). For terrestrial worlds they need to cap that out at 1000 atms or something sane like that.
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Who's to say the real Milky Way doesn't glitch at times as Stellar Forge does?...
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"Planet made of helium metal" is going on the bucket list.