Is VR finally implemented in Odyssey?

[arczi79]

Hello,

Could you please advise if VR mode is finally implemented/fixed in Odyssey? I stopped playing Elite when the Odyssey came out without VR support. How much it has changed from that time? Is VR finally properly supported in Odyssey? I would like to come back to this game... but I can't play it without VR

Regards!
AK

 

[HappyMoonMonkey]

Define implemented?

VR does and has always worked in Odyssey in the same way as Horizons, i.e. on ship and SRV.

There is no on-foot VR.

 

[Darrack]

You may be better off in another section VR

O7

 

[HappyMoonMonkey]

VR in Odyssey is still awesome. I landed at a planetary port the other day with a thin atmosphere and large twin suns. I could do nothing for 5 mins but stare up at the glorious sunshine blazing through the sky at me. Lovely.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I stopped playing Elite when the Odyssey came out without VR support

EDO came out with the same VR support as Horizons. Performance on release was abysmal, but still playable with good hardware.
Much better performance now, but the implementation remains the same - with a comment from Arf many moons ago that there would be no further VR development on EDO - so no first person meandering on foot expected to arrive.

 

[HappyMoonMonkey]

comment from Arf many moons ago that there would be no further VR development on EDO

The comment was that there was no current VR development. Not no further development. That's not to say we'll ever see it but the distinction is important.

 

[Rat Catcher]

The comment was that there was no current VR development. Not no further development. That's not to say we'll ever see it but the distinction is important.

I sit corrected!

 

[AEBRAM]

I hope they do. At least detach the VR "head" view to look around since you still have to "face" the direction of your "head look" to fire your weapon.

 

[Craith]

EDO came out with the same VR support as Horizons. Performance on release was abysmal, but still playable with good hardware.
Much better performance now, but the implementation remains the same - with a comment from Arf many moons ago that there would be no further VR development on EDO - so no first person meandering on foot expected to arrive.

I disagree with the first sentence - we had 100% of the game in VR, now it is less, and we never got the "just take of the headset and play on screen" alternative that was talked about before EDO launch. It doesn't help that I need to recenter the view anytime it switches between VR and virtual screen. It means I need to decide before I boot up the game which gameplay I will spend most of my time, and this leads unfortunately often to me playing other games lately.

For me personally the virtual screen is combining the worst parts of VR and flatscreen mode - still gotta wear the headset, still somewhat lower resolution, no depth and huge areas with no image. Oh, and just forget about good screenshots.

The performance is much better and definitely playable in VR now (unless one of the fire shaders crashes or whatever causes the rare down to 6 FPS drops). On foot in VR also looks gorgeous in the external camera. Just not the gameplay part.

 

[Northpin]

VR is still niche
And a niche feature in niche game is not going to have any sort of meaningful return of investment.

Ubisoft tried with Assassins Creed and they recently stated the sales were disappointing and they will not invest more in this

Ubisoft "disappointed" in 'Assassin's Creed VR' Performance, Future VR Investments on Hold

In Ubisoft’s most recent earnings call, CEO Yves Guillemot said he was “disappointed” with the performance of Assassin’s Creed Nexus VR (2023) and that the company will not be increasing investment in VR right now, as it awaits further growth of the medium. As a Quest exclusive, Assassin’s Creed...

www.roadtovr.com

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[Sighman]

This Cmdr has posted to the Steam forums with his chosen method of playing the on-foot portion in VR. (attach the external camera to your character's face)

It's not perfect, but he does on-foot combat in that mode too.

VR tips :: Elite Dangerous General Discussions

Any goodest VR tips. I planning to start this game and i have valve index and X55 stick and throttle. I want of course to play this with VR. Any advices?

steamcommunity.com

 

[Rat Catcher]

I disagree with the first sentence - we had 100% of the game in VR, now it is less,

Disagree indeed, but the comment was 100% correct - we have the same VR in Odyssey as existed in Horizons - no more, no less.

 

[BurntJello]

VR is still niche
And a niche feature in niche game is not going to have any sort of meaningful return of investment.

Ubisoft tried with Assassins Creed and they recently stated the sales were disappointing and they will not invest more in this

Ubisoft "disappointed" in 'Assassin's Creed VR' Performance, Future VR Investments on Hold

In Ubisoft’s most recent earnings call, CEO Yves Guillemot said he was “disappointed” with the performance of Assassin’s Creed Nexus VR (2023) and that the company will not be increasing investment in VR right now, as it awaits further growth of the medium. As a Quest exclusive, Assassin’s Creed...

www.roadtovr.com

edit: typos

Looks like you are forced to use motion controllers + standing VR exclusive? It is no surprise it failed. All games like that will fail and will continue to fail. Nobody wants to stand around flailing their arms for hours.

FDev NEEDS to finish VR on foot. They are probably 95% of the way there already with most menu interactions being on a screen in the 3d environment already. For them I think it would be a worthwhile investment since they make their money from NEW sales. Having that feature would get them NEW sales. It doesn't matter that only a few VR diehards will actually use it extensively. It would get them more sales.

As always I point to Proton War as an (the only) example of seated VR FPS done right. Mouselook in VR is amazing!

 

[BL1P]

Anti alias in ODY is very bad compared to Horizons.
In Ody you get flickering shadows in horizons you dont.
Performance is about double in Horizons compared to Ody. (overall)

I use a 4070ti and a Quest 2
In Ody I will struggle to get 30+ when in populated areas and you can feel the fps lagging.
In Horizons I get a smooth 70+ in populated areas with good anti alias and no flickering shadows.

Still playable in ODY but Much more enjoyable in Horizons. (VR)
For 2D Ody is Great. (I play on 3440x1440 so It hides some of the bad alias stuff in 2D )

 

[Crank Larson]

VR is still niche

Not so much these days. PC VR is still niche, but I know lots of people that have some form of none-PC VR (e.g. Quest 3). I know very few people that have PC VR, though (so no incentive for more development on EDO really...).

 

[Northpin]

Not so much these days. PC VR is still niche, but I know lots of people that have some form of none-PC VR (e.g. Quest 3). I know very few people that have PC VR, though (so no incentive for more development on EDO really...).

Compared with the non-vr market, the vr gaming market is really niche
If it wasnt, i would be the one begging fdev to make a non-vr odyssey

Anyway, they have the exact numbers of ED VR players... and they decided not to invest more in VR in ED - this should speak volumes, more than anything else.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I use a 4070ti and a Quest 2

Which CPU though?
A 4090 on a Celeron would not perform that well....

 

[BL1P]

Which CPU though?
A 4090 on a Celeron would not perform that well....

Heheh yer but ... AMD Ryzen 7 37000x @ 42000Mhz with 32GB Mem and running of an M.2 drive.


My system is fine, Ody is at fault.
Though yer a Celeron with a 4090 would be funny

 

[bangermsuk]

you added a bit too many 0 on that mhz

im ryzen 7 4500 @3600 mhz.slight over cooked ... cough

 

[Rat Catcher]

Though yer a Celeron with a 4090 would be funny

I'd hoped you'd see the humour!

I was curious, is all - EDO is single thread heavy (according to some research done by Morbad - I have no reason to doubt him!) especially in comparison to Legacy Horizons.