Hardware & Technical Isn’t it about time FD developed and sold a good quality HOTAS?

Uh, no?
That is not FD's business.
They should not stick their nose in that hornet's nest.

I would be very happy if Thrustmaster would produce a Warthog with twist axis, or...
... if Logitech would take the basic Saitek X-56 design and improve its quality.
They don't have to make it cheaper. I just want a good HOTAS.
As far as I am concerned the handling and options of the X-56 are magnificent. Its quality is the most worrying part.

Agreed. The X56 is a great stick but needs the quality materials of the Warthog stick and the adjustability of the X52Pro (because not everyone has hands like bear paws) for both the stick and the throttle. I have never used a Warthog, but every review I have ever read says the stick is awesome but the throttle leaves a bit to be desired as it's not produced in the same materials as the stick.

I think a part of the problem is the consumer base and the longevity of the equipment. Once upon a time things were built to last from transistor radios to cars and everything in-between. Those days have long gone, giving way to commercial greed. I think Jones in the original Robocop movie said it best..."I had a guaranteed military sale with ED 209 - renovation program, spare parts for twenty-five years... Who cares if it worked or not?"

This is how companies think nowadays - kit is not built to last because it will either be superseded every couple of years with a newer model and accompanying hype (just look at your latest phone handset) or there is more profit to be had from repairs and spares. If you have an expensive quality product built to last, once you have invested in it there is no reason to buy another for years. Add to that the relatively low consumer base (because let's face it there are just not enough gamers to create a sustainable profit margin) and you have a reason for not producing that long-lived product.

What does this all mean for the average player? Either go with the usual suspects and hope your purchase lasts or go with smaller producers like Virpil, VKB or Simundza who produce on a far smaller scale or literally to order but use metal components and quality internals.
 
Also, for the record, both Virpil and VKB are going to be releasing twist adaptors for their high end sticks.

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I'm not convinced CH are superior to the likes of VKB or Virpil, for a multitude of reasons.
They aren't the most advanced or pretty or all-metal parts, but they're reasonably easily available at reasonable prices and work. I've recently had ugly issues with the drivers that come with CH Control Manager, but uninstalling those solved that issue.

Personally, I'm not looking for any OMGWTFBBQReplicaAllMetal stick, but something that's comfortable for rather narrow hands (out of all sticks I tried so far, the made-for-games Sidewinder sticks were IMAO the pinnacle of ergonomics, with the X52 stick a very distant second if only for the adjustable handrest with the self-stripping screw but utterly failing on the throttle), and I've yet to see a full HOTAS setup pulling that stunt.
 
I'm not convinced CH are superior to the likes of VKB or Virpil, for a multitude of reasons.

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I don't know about "superior" - that is subjective, depending upon your criteria. They might be old tech, not Hall-effect, not metal gimbals, no twist and not have that "Hey, I'm a military aviator" feel. However they do have the advantage that they don't require a sim-pit (they can be easily accommodated on a desk) and seem very robust / reliable. So I think they could be said to be "more suitable" for some people, rather than say they are "superior".

I have used the X55 and the Warthog but I really honestly prefer the CHPro Throttle and Fighterstick (I also have the pedals and yoke for sims). Others prefer Warthog, Saitek, VKB etc - that is their choice but I do think there are some Warthog users who need to remember that not everyone would suit their choice and so they need to acknowledge their baby's drawbacks as well as advantages when they keep banging-on about it. ;)
 
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I don't know about "superior" - that is subjective, depending upon your criteria. They might be old tech, not Hall-effect, not metal gimbals, no twist and not have that "Hey, I'm a military aviator" feel. However they do have the advantage that they don't require a sim-pit (they can be easily accommodated on a desk) and seem very robust / reliable. So I think they could be said to be "more suitable" for some people, rather than say they are "superior".

I have used the X55 and the Warthog but I really honestly prefer the CHPro Throttle and Fighterstick (I also have the pedals and yoke for sims). Others prefer Warthog, Saitek, VKB etc - that is their choice but I do think there are some Warthog users who need to remember that not everyone would suit their choice and so they need to acknowledge their baby's drawbacks as well as advantages when they keep banging-on about it. ;)

Now this, I can totally get behind. Believe you me, the Warthog has it's drawbacks, as do the Virpil and VKB...

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The title says it all. Why don’t FD get together the best brains from amongst the user base and design a stonking twist yaw HOTAS using quality components? I’d buy one if they managed to make it for less than £250.

Given the pace of game development, when do you think it would be ready for sale? October 2022?
 
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