If we follow truly KS alone - which we should - FD owes us a bit more ships, damage models...and pretty much it.
"it will be one of the very rare times that a feature does not appear on PC or Mac first"
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If we follow truly KS alone - which we should - FD owes us a bit more ships, damage models...and pretty much it.
Maybe I *could* ... but that doesn't mean I should.
It'd be like saying XBox players should beta test content for the PS4 or the Wii or Nintendo 3DS XL ... I don't think you can beta test content for a platform unless you beta test it on that platform
But that's just me and my wild, much disregarded, crazy opinion.
Well, we would get into shades of grey and who has the best lawyers. I don't think many on here would share your opinion on how little they still have to do.
Founder's badge still isn't gold ... and we wouldn't have it saying "Founder" at all if some of us hadn't politely* raised our concerns with Frontier
*= as opposed to jumping up and down and throwing a fit on this forum as is normally the way things go around here.
Not really. It's not gray or white or black or any color. Kickstarter promised very little, at very generic level. Almost all of those promises are - except offline version of the game - delivered.
Anything else has been our hopes and dreams, according to what FD has said after Kickstarter campaign.
edit: do they matter? Of course. Are FD reputation is on the line to deliver or at least admit what's wont ever be in game? True. Are they legally bound to that? Not really.
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Offline mode was not a kickstarter promise. Styggron started asking about an offline mode, and then others started asking too, and Frontier eventually caved in and said there'd be an offline mode. They put it in an FAQ question, but it wasn't part of the kickstarter ... just like the paid expansions.
And you would be wrong. And right. You can certainly test the 'core code' of the expansion on any platform. The platform specific stuff you can only do on the platform, of course. I know it is different on games software, but the systems that I used to Product Manage ran on a series of operating system, browser, database and web server combinations. Even though we typically only supported a handful of each, by the time you cross multiplied all the combinations, you had an enormous number. So we officially supported a few combinations (typically close to the latest versions). Customers who chose to run on a different combination were in the position where (officially at least, though I suspect we would have done so for a 'gorilla' customer) we would not guarantee to fix their issues. But, of course, the thing usually worked fine. If they found a bug, then we would try to reproduce it on one of the supported environments. In the vast majority of cases, we could reproduce it there - the number of platform or environment specific issues was a small percentage.
In this case, it is my expectation that a lot of the testing internally will be done on the PC. Amongst other things, I'm not sure that FD would buy an Xbox for everyone who gets involved in testing, when those things would gather dust most of the time. Of course, there will also need to be lots of testing on XBoxes.
And, of course, I could be completely wrong.
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If you mean it was in an FAQ on the kickstarter page, then that is part of the 'contract' as far as I am concerned. The 'almost God-like' status for DDF members post-release was not in the kickstarter page blurb, but was in one of the videos (IIRC). I still think that they are on the hook for that. Anything 'official' on the kickstarter page that therefore influenced anyone's decision is part of the kickstarter promises. Though as I indicated above, this is really moot, given that no one is likely to pay for lawyers to argue this out.
Stumps me how releasing a feature on another system would make anyone who wanted the game, who owned said system, buy it any more than if it didn't. If you owned another system why would it make you buy the extra content game and the supporting system? You would have to be a complete moron . Maybe the world is completely filled with morons I don't know.
Either way all of this just seems dumb to me and I wont be buying an xbox just to play a deathmatch . I could go into how consoles are on the road to death anyway but I wont do that discussion on this thread lol.
Yes, I am a kickstarter and premium beta and pre paid content type and do you know what ? I just don't care about trivial bonus time limited fluff. That's just me though.
Either way all of this just seems dumb to me and I wont be buying an xbox just to play a deathmatch . I could go into how consoles are on the road to death anyway but I wont do that discussion on this thread lol.
Yes, I am a kickstarter and premium beta and pre paid content type and do you know what ? I just don't care about trivial bonus time limited fluff. That's just me though.
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They weren't (speaking as an alpha backer). They were promised access the alpha and first and second round betas. Those betas ended at release, so all the subsequent betas have been a bonus.
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A promise made during the Kickstarter campaign is de facto a Kickstarter promise. At what point was the promise made?
(I don't know when it was made. But I suspect that you do, and that you know it was made during the campaign, and that you're under the false impression that if it wasn't written into the original Kickstarter pitch, as opposed to being added during the campaign, that it somehow doesn't count. If it wasn't made during the campaign, forget it.)
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May be on the rumour Nintendo NX console.
Well ... here's a link to the kickstarter for Elite Dangerous, please feel free to have a look. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/description
* Yes I do, it was made during the 60 day campaign, and who started it, and why. Ask Styggron.
* I'm not under any false impression, it was not written into the ORIGINAL kickstarter pitch, please feel free to check the link I posted here. It was added as an FAQ answer to the question "How will single player work? Will I need to connect to a server to play?" and the answer was "Update! The above is the intended single player experience. However it will be possible to have a single player game without connecting to the galaxy server. You won't get the features of the evolving galaxy (although we will investigate minimising those differences) and you probably won't be able to sync between server and non-server (again we'll investigate)."
* It doesn't count. An FAQ answer is not the same as a pledge reward.
* And no, I won't "forget it" ... so ner
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Listen to all that nonsense speak for an entire page using a single line about "remember who kickstarted the game" out of context; making your own inferences out of it, and then attacking me as if I was trying to say PC deserves preferential treatment.
Straw-man much? Indeed, I've already stated twice to back-off and actually READ the whole thread; but then, I had a feeling you nicey-nicey "everyone's a flower' types would do this wouldn't you?
Yes, PC have been along for the ride longer, and it was Kickstarted by them-- wouldn't you say that means they deserve equal treatment, as here we have an established community?
KEY HERE: EQUAL treatement, not preferential. I need to drill this home yet again I see.
Now, the Elite: Dangerous community in general is quite evidently a little bit behind the world of gaming in general - essentially older crusty types (I'm 33)-- and they are clueless to the mountains of this exclusive content, DLC rubbish that's coming out of Sony and MS lately. It's sour timing, and it feels like MS are throwing their money around - for only anti-consumer reasons - and Sony will no doubt follow suite.
Look, you will see a growing trend of this at the expense of PC players, the reason being that 'PC' isn't a company, and as such they don't carry any capital weight to strike up exclusive deals. The standard has been set here.
The PC will probably get betas first, but that's just testing.
Straw-man much? Indeed, I've already stated twice to back-off and actually READ the whole thread; but then, I had a feeling you nicey-nicey "everyone's a flower' types would do this wouldn't you?
Yes, PC have been along for the ride longer, and it was Kickstarted by them-- wouldn't you say that means they deserve equal treatment, as here we have an established community?
KEY HERE: EQUAL treatement, not preferential. I need to drill this home yet again I see.
Now, the Elite: Dangerous community in general is quite evidently a little bit behind the world of gaming in general - essentially older crusty types (I'm 33)-- and they are clueless to the mountains of this exclusive content, DLC rubbish that's coming out of Sony and MS lately. It's sour timing, and it feels like MS are throwing their money around - for only anti-consumer reasons - and Sony will no doubt follow suite.
Look, you will see a growing trend of this at the expense of PC players, the reason being that 'PC' isn't a company, and as such they don't carry any capital weight to strike up exclusive deals. The standard has been set here.
The PC will probably get betas first, but that's just testing.
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