It would be nice to have an exploration CG for Colonia Bridge, especially if it worked with exobiology.

[DemiserofD]

It's been almost six months since the last exploration CG. It would be cool to get a new one.

Maybe something that pays bonus data for exploration data from within 500ly of the Colonia Bridge? With the reroll of planets from Odyssey, some new Tourist Beacons along the route would be good, too. Maybe combine the two? Something like...

Saud Kruger Colonia Bridge Exploration Campaign​

An initiative to gather data on potential tourist destinations has been launched by shipbuilding corporation Saud Kruger.

The manufacturer of luxury passenger ships aims to identify sites of particular aesthetic or biological significance. These will be run by its subsidiary, Astrogator Tours, in tandem with Vista Genomics.

CEO Stanislav Kruger announced the campaign to the press:

We are keen to acquire data on sites of particular aesthetic or biological significance, as stopping-off points while passengers make the prolonged trip to Colonia. However, all exploration data is valuable and will earn generous payments.
In addition, our marketing department is keen to receive images of eye-catching sights found near biological sites, to spot the most potentially exciting additions to the Astrogator Tours catalogue.

All Exploration Data will pay out +100%, and Data from within 500ly of a Colonia Bridge Megaship or Station will pay out +300%, as well as contribute triple to the community goal. Furthermore, all Vista Genomics payouts will be temporarily increased +300%, and undiscovered biological data from within 500ly of a Colonia Bridge Megaship or Station will pay out +1000%, and contribute 10x to the community goal.

The top 75% of contributing players will receive two double engineered, Lightweight and Ammo capacity Heat Sink modules.


These rewards will be in place by the end of Friday the 4th of March.

This initiative will run for one week. If the final target is met earlier than planned, the initiative will end immediately.

To earn rewards, you must sign up as an active participant before handing in exploration data.

Be aware that faction-state changes and other disruptive events can negatively impact markets and station services, and could prevent the initiative from running smoothly.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

So only for Odyssey players on PC then...

 

[HRDiagram]

So only for Odyssey players on PC then...

The suggestion says that Exobiology data would be in addition to FSS+DSS, so that would include ship exploration, as well.

While combat CGs give an advantage to EDO players because of how much better ground CZs pay, and that's a fact, an Exobiology addition would actually cripple anyone who pursues it, as things stand now.

Even with the multipliers proposed by the OP, who tends to support his statements with maths, I guess the EDO players would not be much better off, because of how little exobiology pays in relation to how time consuming it is.

My impression is that DemiserofD might have made some calculations for his suggestion, in order to make cartographics and exobiology roughly equivalent, giving more choice on how to pursue the CG, rather than favouring one activity over another.

The one thing that I don't think would be feasible is the limitation of distance from the Colonia Bridge: the amount of checks to make sure that data is gathered within 500ly of any one inhabited system along the bridge could be too much of a stretch.

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

aims to identify sites of particular aesthetic or biological significance.

OMFG! scanning for plants, on foot, on a planet surface! - this could only happen in 2022. I have never seen so much biowaste gameplay as in EDO and I played the first space invaders and pong arcade games in 1978 in the pub and student union at uni prior to Elite in 84!

 

[Evoflash]

So only for Odyssey players on PC then...

The chosen ones.

 

[DemiserofD]

So only for Odyssey players on PC then...

The suggestion says that Exobiology data would be in addition to FSS+DSS, so that would include ship exploration, as well.

While combat CGs give an advantage to EDO players because of how much better ground CZs pay, and that's a fact, an Exobiology addition would actually cripple anyone who pursues it, as things stand now.

Even with the multipliers proposed by the OP, who tends to support his statements with maths, I guess the EDO players would not be much better off, because of how little exobiology pays in relation to how time consuming it is.

My impression is that DemiserofD might have made some calculations for his suggestion, in order to make cartographics and exobiology roughly equivalent, giving more choice on how to pursue the CG, rather than favouring one activity over another.

The one thing that I don't think would be feasible is the limitation of distance from the Colonia Bridge: the amount of checks to make sure that data is gathered within 500ly of any one inhabited system along the bridge could be too much of a stretch.

The chosen ones.

Yeah, Biologicals take a long time to scan, and pay much more poorly than terraformables, so even with this multiplier, I wouldn't expect biological data to win out. But hopefully, this would be enough to make them worth doing, at least.

It generally takes me about an hour to scan a planet with six biologicals, and each one pays out about 200k on average. In the same time, I could probably find around 12 terraformable planets, worth 2m on average.

So with the bonus, it would be 72m/hour for standard FSS+DSS, vs 12m/hour for Exobiology.

So pragmatically the bonus to bio data probably should be closer to 50x to keep up with standard exploration data with a 3x bonus. But I find that unlikely, and 10x to be realistically the most they'd be willing to offer, so that's what I went with.

 

[HRDiagram]

The chosen ones.

That is not really the case, should such a CG actually happen.

But in the end, it's just a suggestion, and it's certainly not causing any harm.

And to be honest, even if this CG happened with these exact figures, I would skip exobiology altogether and do just mapping: it would certainly get me higher in the ranking.

Not "chosen" in this specific instance, I am afraid.

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

Hmm, earlier today I posted on a thread that I would gladly take a reduced res graphics console version of EDO, but now I'm not so sure if its enhanced gameplay is exobiologcal scanning <cough (weird)> and on foot missions <cough, cough (Mass Effect and many others)> (any other (new) EDO gameplay?)
- Why even would I bother! still so much to do in my EDH!

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

Not "chosen" in this specific instance, I am afraid.

Actually it is.
Frontier Developments net worth $122M and focus is PC market with EDO ONLY (not interested or looking at its other games)
Rockstar (admittedly, mostly due to GTA) net worth $4,000M and focus is on ALL platforms!

 

[HRDiagram]

Actually it is.
Frontier Developments net worth $122M and focus is PC market with EDO ONLY (not interested or looking at its other games)
Rockstar (admittedly, mostly due to GTA) net worth $4,000M and focus is on ALL platforms!

This thread is a suggestion by one player to implement a CG using some mechanics from EDO, what are you talking about? What have FDev's financials to do with this suggestion?

You are going on a tangent that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread.

And your previous post, I understand you don't like the game loop: fine, there are many things I don't like, either, but how is it relevant here?

 

[Felix DiCestria]

Perhaps for preengineered bulkheads...

 

[Evoflash]

...why so serious?....

 

[Jmanis]

So only for Odyssey players on PC then...

It could include samples taken via research limpets as well? Personally, I don't know why these aren't included in the xenobiology career path.... well actually I do, but something whinge something.

 

[Deleted member 254248]

They can't balance the CGs with cross platform contributions with combat bonds right now, there's no reason to expect they'd be able to do it any better with exobiology. No CGs that include mechanics specific to Odyssey until everyone who wants it has access to Odyssey, and that includes ground combat.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

The chosen ones.

I feel for console gamers who bought ED in good faith with the assumption of support, I really do (I am a vr player so.........) but it equally isn't fair on those who bought ED:O NOT getting opportunities to do community based play on all of the new ED:O content either.

 

[Deleted member 254248]

Sure it is. No one promised that CGs would include content from all releases. They get to play the new content when a large portion of the player base can't, that's already bad enough, to add that into a CG where that same player base cannot even participate in it?? That's even worse than the horrifically unbalanced combat bond advantage that Odyssey players have that makes it impossible for Horizons players to compete for top spots.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

but no one promised that there would be no CGs involving ED:O content either untill all versions were out.... indeed I am surprised there hasn't been upto this point. it is up to FD at the end of the day but usually when dlcs drop in MMOs.those without the DLC ARE gonna lose out.
the issue imo is whether or not FD bring out ED:O for consoles and they need to make a decision on that and let the players know imo.

I am sure if there was an EDO CG they would run something for the horizons players along side it as well. but even then... they don't have to.
look at it this way.... if the options are a CG for horizons AND a CG for ED:O

or just a CG for horizons.. it's not like you gain anything either way, the only loser there are the people who bought ED:O .... unless you buy into the misery loves company notion.

when CQC 1st launched as a pc player I have to admit I didn't appreciate console players getting it 1st.... but I didnt want them to not be allowed to have access to it, I was frustrated that FD chose to give them an exclusive release period and wanted them to get a wiggle on and release it to all of us.

 

[Deleted member 254248]

but no one promised that there would be no CGs involving ED:O content either untill all versions were out.... indeed I am surprised there hasn't been upto this point. it is up to FD at the end of the day but usually when dlcs drop in MMOs.those without the DLC ARE gonna lose out.
the issue imo is whether or not FD bring out ED:O for consoles and they need to make a decision on that and let the players know imo.

That would be the case with companies who release DLC to all of their playerbase at the same time. They have the opportunity to buy it, if they don't, they obviously miss out. That obviously isn't the case here with the option not even being available to participate even they wanted to.

I am sure if there was an EDO CG they would run something for the horizons players along side it as well. but even then... they don't have to.
look at it this way.... if the options are a CG for horizons AND a CG for ED:O

If there are two completely separate CGs, that cannot in any way overlap or compete with each other, offer the same rewards, and are balanced so it is just as easy/hard for a Horizons player to earn their rewards as it is for an Odyssey player to earn theirs then I have no problem with it. FDev has shown that is never going to happen though, but it's a nice dream.

or just a CG for horizons.. it's not like you gain anything either way, the only loser there are the people who bought ED:O .... unless you buy into the misery loves company notion.

Right now all the CGs are playable for both. FDev's problem is balancing issues, where Odyssey clearly has an advantage over Horizons in the CGs they've chosen to allow Odyssey content to count toward.

when CQC 1st launched as a pc player I have to admit I didn't appreciate console players getting it 1st.... but I didnt want them to not be allowed to have access to it, I was frustrated that FD chose to give them an exclusive release period and wanted them to get a wiggle on and release it to all of us.

That has nothing to do with CGs, but applies just the same for Odyssey now. How would you have felt if there was a CG with rewards being offered only for CQC play back when it wasn't even available for you?