Thanks for this. I have done this my problem is in the binds file VA drops in the binds you create that all good VA works but the JS which is logetech pro extreme and the profile attache to it does not want to work when you have the VA file in with the js binds. So to make the js profile binds work i have to get rid of the VA file usually reads hcs v 3.o etc 4.o. then my joystck works but you loose VA profile by removing them. Unless you pick the Joystick that the hcs customiser has provided. I just cant find a solution? Except to buy a JS on the list in the customiser?