Just for fun: If we would get an aviary expansion, what free animals would you choose?

So the idear for this thread is simple. If we will get any free basegame animals, i would say it would be when the aviary mechanics would be introduced (if they hopefully will be) with maybe 1 or 2 free animals released with it. It would make sense to have for every mechanic basegame animals and none of our current birdy population would really fit that feel.
Also it would stretch out the raster of flying birds beyond the likely 4 animals that would come with a normal size dlc, similar to the diving mechanic.


My first idear was picking something cool and standard, like the baldeagle, but more then likely they would be in the pack as a dlc seller (because im really not doubting the inclusion of the baldeagle if we ever should get aviarys).
I would guess, that the most logical picks for free animals would be a parrot and an owl, as they are both popular, but also not milkable enough to be a must include in the dlc.
My personal picks would be the eagle owl and either the african grey parrot or even a species of macaw, depending on how generous frontier would be giving us the most standard pretty bird for free.

For an overall line up of now theorized 6 birds i would expect something along the lines of:
-1 eagle
-1 owl
-2 parrots
-1 waterbird
-1 miceleanoeus pick

I could totally see the later 2 being skipped for more eagles, parrots or owls, but they would offer a nice variety.
I would suspect that macaws (hopefully red and blue, with them being practical reskins to bump up the species count over 6) and bald eagle are practically a given and that the owl spot would proppably either go to the eagle owl or the snowy owl, maybe both.
For more parrots i would suspect the most logical decisions would be greyparrots, cockatoos or the rainbow lorikeet.
The waterbird would be most likely a scarlet ibis or a pelican, both as far as i know strongly requested with the scarlet ibis making more sense for an aviary system and in my opinion for that reason the better inclusion (i mean we do want most if not all the birds to actually fly, we dont know if we would get anymore).
And the last one could be everything, from more groundwelling species like the secretary bird or some kind of crane, to maybe something smaller like a zebra finch or a toucan or hornbill.

My personal final bird raster upon thouse assumption would look something like baldeagle, red and blue macaw, eurasian eagle owl, scarlet ibis, grey parrot and either the cockatoo or the lorikeet.
This would include a bird from each continent, but still have enough variety to please every kind of player in atleast some way. The only bigger point of criticsm i could see would be that its 3/4 parrot species , but as some of the most colourfull and most frequently keeped birds in captivity it would be in my opinion justified, especally as each of the threespecies would be very diffrent from each other and the rest of the pack.

But what are your idears? I would love to hear what you would like to see and what you think about my little speculation of whats proppably most likely to join us in planet zoo ^^
 
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I don't think we will have animals
free would be cool for us but not for Frontier


-1 Macaws or Parrots

Andean condor
Peregrine Falcon
Crested Caracara
Toucan toco
Monk Vulture or
 
Not sure about getting them free (I would imagine they would release some birds as part of the aviary pack, if such a thing were to happen)... but parrots and owls are a must for me. Ravens might be cool too.
 
Why would they give us anything for free? The most likely situation is one where they develop a new covered habitat, or some kind of way to make the current habitat mechanics work to create covered habitats, which would be useable for any animal in the game, and then add free-flying birds in a DLC that also use this new habitat type. They're not going to give us free animals.
 
Yeah, as everyone else has just said, I don't think we'll be getting free animals, especially not aviary animals.

Although, that raise a question: How many animals would a theoretical aviary pack have?
We obviously can't go with the 5 animal model, too few. The animal pack model is better, if only slightly. I feel like we'd need at least 15 species to have a good roster, but I can settle for 10.
 
Yeah, as everyone else has just said, I don't think we'll be getting free animals, especially not aviary animals.

Although, that raise a question: How many animals would a theoretical aviary pack have?
We obviously can't go with the 5 animal model, too few. The animal pack model is better, if only slightly. I feel like we'd need at least 15 species to have a good roster, but I can settle for 10.
To be honest, my suspicion is that they'll milk it for all it's worth. If I was Frontier and I had the covered habitats and birds planned for an upcoming release, I'd basically do a 7-8 animal pack for December this year, and then spend next year fine-tuning it and releasing further bird packs to increase the roster. So we'd have the "main" bird DLC followed by three or four subsequent bird DLC's with each update fixing the arising issues with flight mechanics.
 
Yeah i get that, but i dont expect a big pack for the first, propabbly closer to the aquatic pack and thought about how to stretch the raster to make it satisfying, even without inclusions. I mean most of the post was me theorizing what kind f birds i would suspect and who i would choose to represent the entirty of flying birds in 6 slot, fit for a zoo game
 
Yeah i get that, but i dont expect a big pack for the first, propabbly closer to the aquatic pack and thought about how to stretch the raster to make it satisfying, even without inclusions. I mean most of the post was me theorizing what kind f birds i would suspect and who i would choose to represent the entirty of flying birds in 6 slot, fit for a zoo game
Optimistically I'd say eight animal slots, which could cover a range at least - two parrots, two birds of prey, and four 'other' (toucan, ibis, puffin, maybe a turaco). I don't know why the bald eagle is always on everyone's lists, though; they aren't that common in zoos outside of America AFAIK and even in parts of America they aren't exactly rare. The Steller's sea eagle would be a better inclusion I think, both because of its impressive size and importance to conservation. That said, Frontier would probably include the bald eagle anyway.
 
Optimistically I'd say eight animal slots, which could cover a range at least - two parrots, two birds of prey, and four 'other' (toucan, ibis, puffin, maybe a turaco). I don't know why the bald eagle is always on everyone's lists, though; they aren't that common in zoos outside of America AFAIK and even in parts of America they aren't exactly rare. The Steller's sea eagle would be a better inclusion I think, both because of its impressive size and importance to conservation. That said, Frontier would probably include the bald eagle anyway.
Considering it's not even legal to showcase bald eagles that aren't rescues in the States, I agree with you. Steller's sea eagles would be just as good, or the Eurasian golden eagle, or harpy eagle.
 
Considering it's not even legal to showcase bald eagles that aren't rescues in the States, I agree with you. Steller's sea eagles would be just as good, or the Eurasian golden eagle, or harpy eagle
Even the Andean condor would be better than the bald eagle, IMO. Or the king vulture.
 
Even the Andean condor would be better than the bald eagle, IMO. Or the king vulture.
Well, I think for me, ideally we'd get a vulture or condor in addition to a raptor. I'd like that to be an eagle, but an owl for instance would be just as good. Part of the problem in this hypothetical situation is we don't know if they'd do 8 birds, 10 birds, 12 etc. And if they'd only ever do one pack, or add more in future dlc. I think for the first pack diversity is definitely important, but there would almost have to be a skew towards tropical or wetland birds since those are far and away the most commonly showcased.
 
Thats actually interesting, didnt knew they were that rare in captivity. I tried to make my pics for 6(7) birds as realisticly as possible and saw an owl, a parrot and an eagle as a no brainer and a given and went from there.
The bald eagle appeared to me as the most iconic and one of the most pack seller eagles, even though i personally would have preferred the golden eagle, african hawk eagle or Verreaux eagle.
Also it fit as a north american representative, as i tried to have one from each continent.
I considerd both toucans and vultures, but ruled both out for a first pack as simply to niche. Atleast here in europe, vultures arnt very common in zoos and even though i would love to see the bearded vulture in the game, he again struck me as to niche.
When we only have a limited roster of birds for a first pack, it makes the most sense for me to go with very general and common zoo birds, "no brainer picks" you could call them.
Every single bird counts and should be a banger, which let all the parrots into the pack, as they are without a doubt all some of the most colourfull and solid picks from their continents. Everybody knows greyparrots, rainbowlorikeets, macaws and cockadoos and most people would be very happy with them.
They would easily build a very solid base raster to build uppon with weirder and more niche picks like vultures, more eagles, hornbills, birds of paradise, fruitbats and all the other wonderfull flying animals we could wish for in the game.

If i would just go for wants, it would proppably look more like this:
1. African hawk eagle
2. Bearded vulture
3. large flying fox
4. rainbowlorikeets
5. eagle owl
6. scarlet ibis
and while this would make me very happy, i dont think that would really fly (pardon) as a first cast of flying animals in the game, atleast not for the majority
 
I agree with the thoughts that I doubt we'd get free birds, in addition to a DLC, but if we did, I feel like the free birds would be lesser iconic birds and the more notable and obvious inclusions, like a Toucan and a Bald Eagle, would be in the DLC. Thoughts on free birds:

Scarlet Macaw (we'd get another macaw in the DLC) - would also give us something from South America
Pelican of some species - I've considered this for a DLC but it may not be as much of a draw as more exotic birds. An Australian Pelican would give us something from that continent.
Snowy Owl - Giving us an owl and something from North America as well, another option could be Roadrunner, but that is as much terrestrial as flying, so the owl may be a better pick.
Grey Crowned Crane - one African animal and also the more long legged wading bird, of which we'd get more in the paid DLC (like the more requested Shoebill or Marabou Storks, or Secretary Bird all from Africa, or Spoonbill or Scarlet Ibis from North and South America.

That leaves Asia without a free bird, but I'm having trouble picking - the two that I keep thinking of would probably be more likely to be DLC - Red Crowned Crane and Rhinoceros Hornbill.
 
Yeah, I can see the aviary mechanic itself being released free in combo with an improved-climbing update, on the selling point that aviaries are impossible for climbing animals to escape, no mater what material you use, or how good they are at climbing. Then actual flying animals would be a paid DLC. A good starter pack could be something like:

Scarlet Macaw
Indian Hornbill
Kookabura
Andean Condor
Bald Eagle
Philippine Eagle
Snowy Owl
Eagle Owl

Then again, an aviary could be larger than the "Animal DLC" we received because the animals might be easier to make (if they don't need full movement mechanics and just kind of loop). And then maybe they could start adding aviary birds instead of exhibit animals from that point on. Not likely, but that's how I'd do it.
 
I think as far as parrots are concerned the two given birds would be the blue-and-gold macaw (believe it or not, more common in captivity than the scarlet), and the sulphur-crested cockatoo. I'd also throw in the African grey parrot as a strong contender, even in a third slot if it came to it. Parrots are by far the most overrepresented bird group in captivity due to the sheer diversity of species and their personality, and those three are the most renowned.

I would actually suspect that after the initial bird DLC we might get something like an "Australian Bird Pack", "South American Bird Pack", "Wetlands Bird Pack", or whatever after that.

Assuming birds are even coming.
 
First, I don't think we would or should get any animal for free, just because flying michanic is new. We didn't get any for deep diving, however, existing animals were updated. For an aviary pack, I would already be fine if I can use covered habitats without using climbing barriers and especially small monkeys / primates could use their barriers as additional climbing- Love when small birds climb mesh.

And forthe animals you chose: Well-knowen birds, that are even knowen by people who aren't bird-freaks or animal-nerds, are selling points and will never ever be given away fro free. Also, I still think a whole pack just with birds isn't a good idea because,believe it or not, there are people who couldn't care less about birds. So at least one very small monkey species should adress those players. I vote for squirrel monkey or black-chinned emperor tamarin, as most people know these and they have a good selling cuteness factor.

As with the pack size, now that I all of a sudden are kind of interested in birds, I can say that even an animal pack would be ridicolous to cover a good variety, but it might be all we get, if we get an aviary pack. I still don't think it's given and I would never talk about it like it's just a matter of time.
 
Snowy Owl - Giving us an owl and something from North America as well, another option could be Roadrunner, but that is as much terrestrial as flying, so the owl may be a better pick.

THAT would be a seller-animal though, because of Harry Potter. It's been years since I past a snow owl enclosure and there is not somone screaming "Hedwig!"
It's like giving a clown fish for free in an aquarium pack. People that are not particularly animal nerds and only play PZ for building would probably pay the DLC price just for thier "Nemo".

Honestly, it annoys me with every zoo visit
 
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