Just sold my Python to get back into my Clipper.

uberdude

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Thought about just buying a clipper for a fun ship but dont see a point with the current system in having 2 ships. The Python just isn't the same since the nerf. I completely understood the shield nerf but the maneuverability nerf just kills it for me. It isn't fun to fly. And fun is more important than cargo space.

Plus the Imperial Clipper just commands more respect and looks 10 times better.

Anyway, safe travels commanders. :)
 
Interesting.
As you have experienced both, does the weapon placement on the Clipper not frustrate you?
And the mere fact that it can not use outposts? Because of my Clipper I have not seen one of them in several weeks and I really miss them.
Some missions I want to take require access to Outposts. I feel quite limited because of that. Some very interesting systems do not have bigger stations at all.
 
Nah, i have both myself and weapons are okay - at least against NPC. Never had problems, even against condas and such and only with a traders shield equipped. For me the only reason i moved to the python was the considerably larger cargospace and the medium size. Still, regarding feeling and although it can be also fun, it does not feel anything as good compared to steering the clipper. Not by simply stats, but that awesome view out of the front window, the engine sounds, the interior (especially that, and for most time cause of those annoying stains in the python cockpit). For me and i have flown most stuff in this game leaving only T9 and Conda out ot that list, the clipper gave me the best allround feeling.
 
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uberdude

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Interesting.
As you have experienced both, does the weapon placement on the Clipper not frustrate you?
And the mere fact that it can not use outposts? Because of my Clipper I have not seen one of them in several weeks and I really miss them.
Some missions I want to take require access to Outposts. I feel quite limited because of that. Some very interesting systems do not have bigger stations at all.

As far as I'm concerned the only selling points for the Python at this time are that it can hold more cargo and land at outposts. Beyond that it isn't fun to fly anymore. It wasn't just the OP shields it had but that it was at least almost as maneuverable as the Clipper. Now it's like flying a bloated whale even with 6A thrusters and that isn't right in my opinion. Plus it's ugly and has an awful interior.

At the end i realized i want to fly what makes me happy and at this moment that is the clipper. After selling everything on it and rebuying the clipper i took maybe a 3 million credit loss which is worth it in my opinion to fly what makes me happy. And it made me happy boosting past 430 and being able to actually turn again.

I've found that Gimbals solve that problem. And because the clipper can actually Maneuver far better than the Python at the moment it's easier to get weapons on target in the clipper.
 
They promised that the Python would go through another pass for balance (so much for promises) The reclassifying the Python as a trader is a joke (very bad joke) as the setup of the Python is the same or better than the dedicated fighters that are coming into the game.

With the Python's agility slower than the Anaconda's ( I'm speaking of all A-Equipment, that's all I fly) It's clear they will either nerf the Anaconda, do nothing, or give the Python some meaningless perk like more power. I think it's time FD un-nerf the Python's agility and speed a bit and stay true to their word.
 
With the Python's agility slower than the Anaconda's ( I'm speaking of all A-Equipment, that's all I fly) It's clear they will either nerf the Anaconda, do nothing, or give the Python some meaningless perk like more power. I think it's time FD un-nerf the Python's agility and speed a bit and stay true to their word.

Yea, at least some more agility would be much obliged. When i took my new Python out for the first round, i was totally shocked by its sluggish behavior. I don't expect it to turn on a dime, but at least it should feel better than your average frighter.
 
Interesting.
As you have experienced both, does the weapon placement on the Clipper not frustrate you?
And the mere fact that it can not use outposts? Because of my Clipper I have not seen one of them in several weeks and I really miss them.
Some missions I want to take require access to Outposts. I feel quite limited because of that. Some very interesting systems do not have bigger stations at all.

It can be circumvented. Kind of. I usually go with C3 beams and C2 Cannons and I've got right side fixed and left side gimballed. It's a little awkward at the start, but easy to get used to. Not harder than off-centre seat iself.
 

uberdude

Banned
I like how the python handles, not like a fighter but like a big ship. but i like big ships :)

That is the upsetting part. I'm not saying the Python isn't a big ship but it isn't the size of a clipper. And i can do cartwheels around a Python in a clipper all day and have a been grin on my face doing it. They hit the Python far to hard with the nerf hammer in my opinion.

Completely off topic but what is your profile picture from? I can't stop staring at it O_O :p
 
Thanks for the answers guys.
Personally I am not a big fan of the Clipper's looks, but I love the way it handles and the singing of the engine.
It is all a matter of taste of course, but what I don't like about the design of the Clipper is the oversized cockpit. When you look inside you see two tiny chairs in an almost empty hall that seems big enough for a 4 room apartment. I feel the enormous size of the cockpit and it's canopy are out of proportion. When you look at modern airplanes with fuselages of comparable size the cockpit and canopy are much smaller. Because of that these planes convey their large size much better and they look much better too.
I also would have liked the Clipper to have a more aggressive hawk-like nose, instead off the Donald Duck nose it has now.


It can be circumvented. Kind of. I usually go with C3 beams and C2 multis and I've got right side fixed and left side gimballed. It's a little awkward at the start, but easy to get used to. Not harder than off-centre seat iself.

That is indeed an interesting way of doing things. Never considered it.

I had C3 beams and C2 multis. All gimballed.
I wanted to test a few other weapons configurations. I tried fixed beams and multis, but even an Anaconda seemed to maneuver lazily and unharmed between the beams of my lasers :). I couldn't believe it. was so shocked that I was almost destroyed before I could react. I tried some other stuff too, but nothing was to my liking.

Now I want my old weapons back, but it is not so easy to find them where I am now.
 
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Hmm...I was in a T7 and was going to switch to a clipper. One problem was my Imperial rank seems stuck at Knight. The other was that I wasn't sure about the fighting ability of the clipper. So I got a python instead by selling my Cobra as well as the T7.

Having no experience in the old Python, the pitch seems a little slow...maybe same as T7. Yaw is a joke of course compared to the T7. Hopefully, handling improves as I upgrade the thrusters...but...did I just buy something that handles *worse* than a T7???
 
I have both and must say the python seems pretty sluggish . its my trader. The clipper is much nicer to kill things in.
 

uberdude

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Hmm...I was in a T7 and was going to switch to a clipper. One problem was my Imperial rank seems stuck at Knight. The other was that I wasn't sure about the fighting ability of the clipper. So I got a python instead by selling my Cobra as well as the T7.

Having no experience in the old Python, the pitch seems a little slow...maybe same as T7. Yaw is a joke of course compared to the T7. Hopefully, handling improves as I upgrade the thrusters...but...did I just buy something that handles *worse* than a T7???

The turning in the python is horrible at the moment. and 16 million CR thrusters (A6) don't make it much better.
 
I have both and enjoy both but the python is by far the better combat ship. Clipper needing gimbal weapons kills it. Equal pilots python will take clipper every time.
 
Clipper seem to have a worse time killing elite Anacondas though. In my Python I just face tank it while attempting a (slow) orbit and it usually dies before my shields, while people seem to have some more problem with Clipper...
 
I have both and enjoy both but the python is by far the better combat ship. Clipper needing gimbal weapons kills it. Equal pilots python will take clipper every time.

No cos the Clipper pilot, being of equal skill, will just know to boost away.

Equal pilots, nobody ain't killing nothing.
 
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