Keepers and their idiotic A.I. (Complaint and Ideas)

I am getting damn frustrated that keepers are lazy morons who do not fill food, water and enrichment dishes, especially all at the same time!


Call a Keeper to refill the empty food/water dish and enrichment items and what happens?

The Keeper enters the habitat, looks around for a couple of seconds, turns around and leaves.

You would think the Keeper is going to make food to fill the feeders, right?

LOL!

No!

They decide to wander the zoo then complain they have nothing to do. <Insert several long sentences with every other word being a swear word.> (And just so you are aware the Keeper is assigned to this habitat).

I call the Keeper back to the [same] habitat, he/she enters, and the lights finally click on, "OMG! They are hungry!" Keeper runs to make food, runs back to the habitat with a food bucket in hand. Again, I am talking out and to myself, "Finally! <Insert a handful of shorter sentences with every other word being a swear word.>"

Short lived was my small celebration. I watch the Keeper walk passed the animals platform feeder, approach the ice fruit block, refills it.

The Keeper turns around and fills another ice fruit block.

Um OK.

Then he/she walks back towards the platform feeder and completely ignores the feeder. Is the platform feeder going to come to life as an evil monster that will rend the flesh from their bones an, I don’t know? Make a bone meal cappuccino!?!?! The Keeper continues on to the exit door and then out it.

I am sitting there like......

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<Insert an endless number of sentences with every word being a swear word.>

And before you say, "Train your keepers to prevent this from happening." Let me respond here and now with: "They are fully trained!."




Thus, I came up with some ideas that could help this problem in the present and future of this game.

*When placing a food/water dish in a habitat/exhibit, you will have a choice within the dish window -- fill, half-fill and empty. Upon placing a second food/water dish within the same habitat, the choices in the dish window will change --- fill (greyed out, cannot select), half-fill and empty. Any other food/water dish placed within the habitat will be empty and both options --fill and half-filled will be grey-out. Its basically a onetime new habitat fill deal.

*Add in auto feeders. (Expensive. Degrades over time. Animals/Visitors may dislike the noise. Food is OK, not as good as level one feed; and animals may suffer wellness issues --disease, lower life expectancy, lower fertility and (wellness) mood swings.

*When food/water gets to about a 1/3 left. the player is alerted: "<Animal species> food/water dish is getting low." This alert can be turned on/off.

*Another alert that can be added: "<Animal species> food/water dish is empty." This will allow the player to drag a keeper by the collar to fill the feeder. This alert can be turned on/off AND should help against animal starving.


*Place a timer upon the food/water dish(es). IF "X" amount of time has passed and the dish(es) have NOT been filled, (due to a bug, keepers being dumb or any other reason) emergency food and water will appear in the habitat. The amount of emergency food that appears in the exhibit will be determined by the number of animals in the habitat and the specie’s of the animal(s). Furthermore, the emergency food will not be the same as the animal's normal diet. Thus, if a player tries to use this as an exploit, overtime the animal's welfare will deteriorate from not getting the proper nutrients from their food. It is after all emergency food and it is there to prevent the animal(s) from starvation.


Please, share your/thoughts ideas too! :)
 
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The keepers will fill enrichment items before the trays. If you have enough enrichment items, depending on the animal, you may not even need feeding platforms. Especially true for smaller animals. A forager enrichment box seems to keep 2 adult red pandas and a cub satisfied, for example.

Now, I will agree with you that the feeding can be a problem. I have had it be a nightmare at times, and other times work perfectly fine. What causes the derpitude where the keepers fill enrichment/feeders for one animal in the pen and not another? I don't know. I had that issue with the second career park-- Grand Caldera where the keepers would fill the food for the springbok, but not for the giraffes. In a later zoom, I have zebras, giraffes, ostriches and springbok all in the same pen and a 2 star keeper feeds them all no problem. Perhaps it's got something to do with extremely large habitats. I don't recall how big the giraffe/springbok habitat was in Grand Caldera, but my encosure for this zoo was somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 m^2, which is probably a lot smaller.
 
I'm satisfied with how the keepers work. Haven't run into any issues with them. And as souldrake said, maybe your feeding platform wasn't needed.
 
I'm satisfied with how the keepers work. Haven't run into any issues with them. And as souldrake said, maybe your feeding platform wasn't needed.

Do you have a large multiple-species habitat? This is what causes most problems for me. The keepers (I assigned four to my largest habitat) just cant seem to keep up with the work, while at the same time complaining they have too little work to do. There is only ever one keeper at a time working in the habitat. :/ The others just wander and are bored.
 
Do you have a large multiple-species habitat? This is what causes most problems for me. The keepers (I assigned four to my largest habitat) just cant seem to keep up with the work, while at the same time complaining they have too little work to do. There is only ever one keeper at a time working in the habitat. :/ The others just wander and are bored.

Yes, I have one with Ostriches, Warthogs, and at least two other species which names I don't recall right now. I belief I have 2 keepers assigned to it and a few that don't have a work zone that might help out there.
 
Do you have a large multiple-species habitat? This is what causes most problems for me. The keepers (I assigned four to my largest habitat) just cant seem to keep up with the work, while at the same time complaining they have too little work to do. There is only ever one keeper at a time working in the habitat. :/ The others just wander and are bored.

How large is large? If yours is well over ~2500 sq m, then perhaps we are discovering just what is wrong with the keeper AI. Perhaps at habitats over X sq. m, this is where the problem begins.
 
You have to train them at least up to lvl 2, before they understand that animals need food. I tried dragging them to their jobs, but they are not programmed to feed animals at lvl 1. A lvl 1 keeper only carries boxes to a habitat.

Also, patience is the key.
 
You have to train them at least up to lvl 2, before they understand that animals need food. I tried dragging them to their jobs, but they are not programmed to feed animals at lvl 1. A lvl 1 keeper only carries boxes to a habitat.

Also, patience is the key.
Err... my level 1 keepers feed animals just fine? >.>;

It is the caretakers (IE janitorial staff/custodians/sweepers/etc.) and/or vets that carry boxes to the habitats.
 
How large is large? If yours is well over ~2500 sq m, then perhaps we are discovering just what is wrong with the keeper AI. Perhaps at habitats over X sq. m, this is where the problem begins.

That would be possible. I will too take a look on the size of my large habitat and post here. It really baffles me that four fully trained 5* Keepers can't keep up with the work :( They also never seem to put in enough food. When they fill the ostrich bowl the ostriches come running like starved zombies and empty the bowl within seconds. The slower, young animals sometimes can't reach the bowl in time to feed :(
 
What I found in a large flamingo habitat is that with a certain amount of animals the animals themselves seem to get problems with sustaining themselves. I was able to solve this with distributing the feeders more evenly across the habitat, so that ways are shorter.
 
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