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Surfinjo

Surfinjo
This outragiously boring campaign seems to trundle on.

The latest is the Islington luvvies are begining to wonder if it was such a good idea nominating someone like Corbyn who ends up being popular with the rank and file.

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Meanwhile, the Scottish Labour Party continues to chug along without a leader while the acting leader of the English Labour Party thinks it might be a good idea if all Labour MPs are ordered not to oppose the government's cuts.

You couldn't make this up.
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Possibly.

Personally, I'm not convinced by Corbyn.

When I took a long hard look at the disasters of the 70s, it became fairly obvious that Wilson and Callaghan set out to creat a disaster, to pave the way for Thatcher.

The current policies of Cameron were generaly painted as being a necessary response to Brown, (notice not Blair!), but that was also a lie.

Now we have Harperson ordering Labout MPs to vote for welfare cuts.

The Labout party is a sham. Ramsey MacDonald was the only genuine socialist and he was almost immediatly set up. Though not deposed, he was given Hobson's choice.

Socialism is such a simple idea and can create an enormously successful society. This has been shown in a number of countries, including Denmark and Sweden.

But evey time the Labour government has held power they seem determined to destroy the economy rather than build. In ther 60s, they created FIS wich is basically free money, 70s, they sought to create a new dominant class, Brown filled he country with economic time bombs.

But what really makes this guy seem unreal is that most of his polices are as silly as divisive as those of Wilson in the 70s.
 
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Jezzah

Jezzah
Good luck to Corbyn hope he gets its personally mainly because I'm an ex labour voter that got sick of the middle ground message of the past 20 years or so. Like to to see what he brings to the party and may even start voting for them again.
 

Winterwalker

Winterwalker
Personally I think Corbyn's idealism, combine with economically pragmatic team behind (see Chuka Umunna type economy realism talk, from Newsnight recently) could be Labour's way out. Centre Left Average versus Centre Right Consensus? Unfortunately without a Corbyn, a stronger voice of disdain, I think the rest of the field leaves them more stuck because no shifting of ground, if all (politicians) are the same. Andy Burnham, though very decent, is a bit too measured (and, well, shiny) for me and comments like Margaret Becket's this morning, seem like shooting the leader before elected. "He's good, but my candidate's better" would seem a better line for a less than suicidal party, who can't seem to avoid holding a victim's position .. political press "10 years out of office", is a trap.

[video=youtube;ZpbxCEVzAEk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpbxCEVzAEk[/video]
 

Surfinjo

Surfinjo
There is talk among some Labour MPs of deselecting the new leader if it is someone they are not in favour of.

To do this they would need around 50 MPs to kickstart the plan into action.

It comes after a YouGov poll put Jeremy Corbyn as the forerunner with 43% of party supporters. This is followed by Andy Burnham on 26%, Yvette Cooper with 20% and Liz Kendall on 11%.

ITV News Deputy Political Editor Chris Ship reports:
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http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-22/labour-mps-in-talks-to-deselect-potential-new-leader/

Video article.
 

Arry

Arry
Who ever is elected the new leader, the party needs to be seen, as a credible opposition and the party need to unite behind that leader and forget all of the bickering.
 
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adoredtv

adoredtv
Labour needs a wholly unlikely alignment of stars to get elected again. England really isn't a socialist country at heart. Labour has too many awful leaders, completely lacking in charisma - they have no chance without a Blair at the helm. The Tories need to be actively making a mess of stuff with years of sleaze and mismanagement before the average tory voter gives up on them. All that will happen maybe one parliament in 20 from here on, if that.
 
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Frank

Frank
Surfinjo said:
A great video showing the state of Brish journalism featuring Murdoch's number 1 idiot, Kay Burley.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...=UK&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Worth watching.
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Wow! That was cringingly embarrassing. I had to switch it off halfway through. The BBC had John Craven's Newsround to make the News understandable, but Sky News is aimed at people with a lower reading age than schoolchildren.

If Murdoch has his way and gets Cameron to destroy the BBC then Kay Burley will be the UK top anchor. <scrambles away to sign the 'Save the BBC' petition>
 

Winterwalker

Winterwalker
Surfinjo said:
A great video showing the state of Brish journalism featuring Murdoch's number 1 idiot, Kay Burley.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...=UK&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Worth watching.
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Classic. Let's face it there's only one Jeremy Paxman and Kay Burley, sorry to say, is not he.

For old times' sake [1:35 on ..] Paxo / Howard

[video=youtube;Uwlsd8RAoqI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwlsd8RAoqI[/video]

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For a better time's sake .. Dennis .. Dennis Pennis :rolleyes:

[video=youtube;UndC8e2uLsY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UndC8e2uLsY[/video]
 
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