Last main-sequence star on your designated route?

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
I noticed this new message in my info panel while exploring last week. I'm probably missing something obvious, but can anyone explain the significance of this message or what is meant by a main-sequence star?

I thought it might be part of the last star I can fuel scoop on the route, but I don't think that is it as I have noticed the next stars after are still scoopable.

Cheers,
AD
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
Hmm, I don't think it matches the flag showing on the galaxy map for the last scoopable. I'll have to check it out again tonight.

Last time I saw it, I was almost full of fuel, also running an additional tank giving 64t fuel. Perhaps it's broken?
 

andrewg_oz

andrewg_oz
What I think it's happening is when the route is calculated it assumes you're not scooping and works out the last possible star you can scoop from before running out of fuel. You can then go into the galaxy map and re-plot the route to set the next fuel star.
 

CMDR_TEK

C
I thought it had something to do with fuel, but that doesn't correlate with experience.

Every time I've had the message come up, i've neither been about to run out of fuel, nor has it been the last scoopable star.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
To answer the question literally: a "main sequence star" is a star in the typical hydrogen-fusion cycle which is defined as "normal", since the vast majority of stars in the galaxy are at this stage. Early pre-main-sequence stars are T Tauris and AeBe Herbigs. Post-main-sequence stars are the subgiants, giants, supergiants, carbon stars, Wolf-Rayets and stellar remnants (white dwarfs, neutron stars and black holes). Wikipedia.

Technically, "main sequence" and "scoopable" are not exactly the same groups, because you can still scoop from giant and supergiant stars, even though they are not on the main sequence any more. I do not know if ED considers giants and supergiants to be part of the "main sequence" for fuel scoop route plotting or not.
 

BradHann

BradHann
CMDR_TEK said:
I thought it had something to do with fuel, but that doesn't correlate with experience.

Every time I've had the message come up, i've neither been about to run out of fuel, nor has it been the last scoopable star.
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The game calculates the "last scoopable star" when you first plot your course. It doesn't take into account that you may be fuel scooping on the way. If you open the galmap it will re-calculate.
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
BradHann said:
The game calculates the "last scoopable star" when you first plot your course. It doesn't take into account that you may be fuel scooping on the way. If you open the galmap it will re-calculate.
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That would make sense why I saw it frequently on a 2k plot. I often jump into the galaxy map to have a quick look around the area between other things.

It sounds to me that its working then, but its rather limited in the design. Not very useful. Seems like it should recalc this on each loading screen otherwise it will always be out of sync for anyone using a fuel scoop.
 

CMDR_TEK

C
yes indeed. So just did a trip being careful to scoop as minimally as possible and the "last main sequence start" was the fuel star.
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
Yes, it needs to update dynamically, I often wondered what it was on about, and suspected that it might not take into account additional scooping, which is ridiculous, as you can't really avoid scooping while on a straight line route, you almost always have to go around the star in close proximity, causing incidental scooping.
 

DoctorDanny

DoctorDanny
It should recalculate after you've scooped fuel, but it doesn't.
Turns it into a rather useless feature that confuses rather than helps.
 

Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
Unless you scoop at those indicated stars only. Then it's helpful addition. You can freely fly and when prompt pops up - refuel. And continue. With it I can skip on watching the fuel gauge. System will alert me in time. First I must double check this approach to trust it but when it turns about right - rather helpful thing.
 

Flavourless

Flavourless
In addition to the other points mentioned here, I often see other main sequence stars on my plotted route after the "last one".
Could be a nice feature, but needs a little work to make it useful.
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
Sapyx said:
To answer the question literally: a "main sequence star" is a star in the typical hydrogen-fusion cycle which is defined as "normal", since the vast majority of stars in the galaxy are at this stage. Early pre-main-sequence stars are T Tauris and AeBe Herbigs. Post-main-sequence stars are the subgiants, giants, supergiants, carbon stars, Wolf-Rayets and stellar remnants (white dwarfs, neutron stars and black holes). Wikipedia.

Technically, "main sequence" and "scoopable" are not exactly the same groups, because you can still scoop from giant and supergiant stars, even though they are not on the main sequence any more. I do not know if ED considers giants and supergiants to be part of the "main sequence" for fuel scoop route plotting or not.
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The next star after receiving the message was a K-class. Is that not in the main sequence, or was it just wrong?
 

Cmdr Ultra

Cmdr Ultra
The warning is set when you first set the route. And then it assumes you don't scoop on your journey.

Which is kinda weird as it is warning you about scoopable stars...
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
Shiro Akai said:
Unless you scoop at those indicated stars only. Then it's helpful addition. You can freely fly and when prompt pops up - refuel. And continue. With it I can skip on watching the fuel gauge. System will alert me in time. First I must double check this approach to trust it but when it turns about right - rather helpful thing.
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The challenge will be not to scoop. :p With the new alignments on jumps that came in 2.3(?), it almost always results in some fuel being siphoned off the star unless you purposely cut wide around the star.

Might test this out for my own curiosity next time I log in. I'll fill up, disable the scoop and jump until I see the message, enable scoop and fill up. Seems strange that it might work this way though. Hopefully it can be improved on at some point.
 
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