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It's not a question of "will it run", it's a question of "how much are you susceptible to reprojection". I used to run Elite on DK2 and later borrowed HTC Vive on... a gtx 670. It was way back in 2016 I think, and at that time VR blew my mind completely. The novelty was so big that I didn't notice black smears on dk2, didn't notice ultra jaggies and so on and so forth. Flying around stations and some planets was horrible, but as you don't have motion controls, you don't notice it that much. Sure there's judder and interface is less responsive but hey I was in my starship! I could perceive actual depth perception! How cool is that! :D

So yeah, it will probably run. Depending on how well it runs, and how susceptible a person is to vr shortcomings it will be playable or not. This is from a person who played fallout 4 vr on release, and framerates were terrible. Around 36 fps in the vault, somewhat better on the outside (up to 70 fps) on a gtx 1070 and i5-3570k@stock :) Yet with reprojection, I was able to play a few hours of that crap and then generally gave up waiting for a patch or a better card. And CPU ;-)

EDIT: After trying harder to remember things I think the person that borrowed me the vive also swapped his GPU with me, and I was on a 1070 at that point and he had an 1080. I think. It's fuzzy now ;). That said, the dk2 did run on gtx 670.
 
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Thank you sir. :)

Ok so initial impressions are pretty positive with some reservations... The feel of the game is totally different, the holographic HUD panels are cool the sense of scale is nice. The biggest wow for me is the ability to look around and behind. I've spent most my time in a courier and that is just fantastic in VR. You do however trade sharpness - it seems to particularly struggle with moving ships and stations (this could be my settings). Sharpness of planets and stars is great so the headset can do it. It's very difficult to recommend as a definite or not as it's so subjective and I think some activities are going to be more VR friendly than others.

Your spec PC can definitely run the game, though almost certainly not at a stable 90fps.

I'm running at SS1.25 and did the the set target render to 2.0 which improves legibility of text. At SS1.25 my 1060 is about 90% with some spikes. SS1.0 is about 65%. Looking at steam frame timings my bottleneck is the processor which is causing "late starts" (don't know what this means) and is pretty much fully loaded across the four cores. My PC has been running about 3 years, but is pretty clean and apart from avast doesn't have anything running in the background.

I still need to do the following so plan to come back and update this (or more likely start from scratch) at some point:
  • I've not overclocked my i5-4690k (or 1060). Hopefully overclocking the cpu will be a good win (i've never needed to do this previously, hence never bothered)
  • I've not tested the difference in experience with re projection off. This seems to be a marmite setting to alot of people... so may be the single biggest change.
  • My keybinds with a tflight-x are terrible for VR so these need changing (they needed doing anyway)
  • I'm sure i can fine tune the graphical performance further

My spec is the same as you with just 8Gb DDr3 ram 1333mhz. It doesn't use the full 8Gb, but i can't rule out the speed being an issue (research online has been very inconclusive on this).
 
Ok so initial impressions are pretty positive with some reservations... The feel of the game is totally different, the holographic HUD panels are cool the sense of scale is nice. The biggest wow for me is the ability to look around and behind. I've spent most my time in a courier and that is just fantastic in VR. You do however trade sharpness - it seems to particularly struggle with moving ships and stations (this could be my settings). Sharpness of planets and stars is great so the headset can do it. It's very difficult to recommend as a definite or not as it's so subjective and I think some activities are going to be more VR friendly than others.

Your spec PC can definitely run the game, though almost certainly not at a stable 90fps.

I'm running at SS1.25 and did the the set target render to 2.0 which improves legibility of text. At SS1.25 my 1060 is about 90% with some spikes. SS1.0 is about 65%. Looking at steam frame timings my bottleneck is the processor which is causing "late starts" (don't know what this means) and is pretty much fully loaded across the four cores. My PC has been running about 3 years, but is pretty clean and apart from avast doesn't have anything running in the background.

I still need to do the following so plan to come back and update this (or more likely start from scratch) at some point:
  • I've not overclocked my i5-4690k (or 1060). Hopefully overclocking the cpu will be a good win (i've never needed to do this previously, hence never bothered)
  • I've not tested the difference in experience with re projection off. This seems to be a marmite setting to alot of people... so may be the single biggest change.
  • My keybinds with a tflight-x are terrible for VR so these need changing (they needed doing anyway)
  • I'm sure i can fine tune the graphical performance further

My spec is the same as you with just 8Gb DDr3 ram 1333mhz. It doesn't use the full 8Gb, but i can't rule out the speed being an issue (research online has been very inconclusive on this).

I need to do some testing before adding to my thread but I've read a suggestion that having reprojection on can show as late starts.

Also regarding your processor I know that going from an i5 3570 3.2ghz with 8gb ddr3 to ryzen 1600 @3.8ghz with 16gb DDR4 lifted my fps from reprojection always on and lows around 30fps to 70-90 without reprojection on the same settings. Definitely worth trying cpu and ram oc if possible.

Have you checked your Steamvr SS settings? Can fine tune to find the best performance to image quality. And I know I prefer setting HMD quality rather than SS in game, looks better to my eyes.

Anyway, unsolicited ramblings, thought it might be helpful.
 
I need to do some testing before adding to my thread but I've read a suggestion that having reprojection on can show as late starts.

Also regarding your processor I know that going from an i5 3570 3.2ghz with 8gb ddr3 to ryzen 1600 @3.8ghz with 16gb DDR4 lifted my fps from reprojection always on and lows around 30fps to 70-90 without reprojection on the same settings. Definitely worth trying cpu and ram oc if possible.

Have you checked your Steamvr SS settings? Can fine tune to find the best performance to image quality. And I know I prefer setting HMD quality rather than SS in game, looks better to my eyes.

Anyway, unsolicited ramblings, thought it might be helpful.

Thanks, the more feedback and ideas the better! I'll definitely overclock the CPU as I always intended (installled it with an upgraded cooler) to do it but never needed to until now.

I'll have a look at HMD settings asnwell as SS.

Bit of a shame for the motherboard socket there isn't much opportunity to upgrade the CPU - though I could try a used 4 series i7. Interesting your CPU and ram upgrade made such a big difference. What graphics card are you using?
 
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Thanks, the more feedback and ideas the better! I'll definitely overclock the CPU as I always intended (installled it with an upgraded cooler) to do it but never needed to until now.

I'll have a look at HMD settings asnwell as SS.

Bit of a shame for the motherboard socket there isn't much opportunity to upgrade the CPU - though I could try a used 4 series i7. Interesting your CPU and ram upgrade made such a big difference. What graphics card are you using?

I was really surprised at the difference tbh, had only hoped it would be on par and planned to get a Ryzen v3 next year. I'm on a 1080ti.
 
What's your pc spec? I'm planning on doing some testing so would be good to have some other points of reference

Ryzen 1200 at stock 3.1ghz, 16GB ddr4 ram at 2933, Radeon 480 8GB. The cpu is showing around 70 % on all cores so isn't flat out. I only got the cpu/ram/mb a few weeks ago and was hoping the cpu would do for a while and I would see what the new ryzens due out in 2019 offered or go for a 2600 later. The 1200s are supposed to oc quite well so I may try that if I get time.

VR is amazing in some ways ie the ship cockpits and the looking around which is miles better than the head/eye tracking I have tried before but the flickering edges and highlights are very bad and I do find I get nauseous at times and the headband and nosepiece is very uncomfortable after a while.
 
Overclocked my i5 4690k to around 4.5Ghz (quite impressed with that) no stability issues and it is faster by any measure - however not enough that it isn't bottlenecking elite and having issues with late starts. I'll focus on balancing settings to get the best compromise... maybe next year will be a new pc build :)
 
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