Engineers Lightweight HRP mod is redundant

[Lateralus]

Why would anyone ever use the lightweight hull reinforcement package mod? Downsizing your HRP by one size and putting the heavy duty mod on it is better in every way (more hull, more resistance, lighter, cheaper).

I think the lightweight mod needs a pretty decent buff in terms of weight-reduction and resistance.. thoughts?

 

[Chaparral]

Thank you for pointing that out.

 

[Starman 1966]

Absolutely agree. The only reasonable lightweight armour blueprint is the one for Reactive Surface Composite.

 

[Morbad]

Lightweight HRPs are pointless (the only conceivable niche I can see is if a D1 HRP is somehow too heavy for something) and almost every setup does best with all HD HRPs or all HD and one or two resistance HRPs.

Absolutely agree. The only reasonable lightweight armour blueprint is the one for Reactive Surface Composite.

I use lightweight lightweight alloys on a few small ships for the extra hull resistance, because the extra armor from other mods or other bulkheads is irrelevant in comparison to the integrity from HRPs.

 

[Neutronium]

Lightweight HRPs are pointless (the only conceivable niche I can see is if a D1 HRP is somehow too heavy for something) and almost every setup does best with all HD HRPs or all HD and one or two resistance HRPs.



I use lightweight lightweight alloys on a few small ships for the extra hull resistance, because the extra armor from other mods or other bulkheads is irrelevant in comparison to the integrity from HRPs.

Hi. I just unlocked selene jean. Can someone enlighten me please:
1.Do I get extra hull boost on lightweight alloys hull if I do the lightweight mod?
2.Do I get worse (than the defaults) hull if I do the lightweight mod on reinforced / military grade alloys hull?

Thank you in advance.

 

[TheMegaTurnip]

Yeah I've noticed this.

Best option for a change is give LW a higher resistence yeild and a higher mass drop. Make the resistance increase higher than heavy duty, but make the HP increase either non existent or sub 10%.

Resistence builds are better on smaller, ligher vessels anyway and most medium bi-weave hybrids will still run heavy duty simply due to the nature of PA's and thier regularity in PvP builds.

Not to mention it would help the explorers in terms of high G landings or indeed attempts on thier ship whilst retaining jump range. Though i suppose thats a buff for everyone should they choose to use it and would very much give lightweight HRP's a good place in the engineering table.

 

[biohazard15]

Hi. I just unlocked selene jean. Can someone enlighten me please:
1.Do I get extra hull boost on lightweight alloys hull if I do the lightweight mod?
2.Do I get worse (than the defaults) hull if I do the lightweight mod on reinforced / military grade alloys hull?

Thank you in advance.

1: Never, ever do lightweight mod on base lightweight alloys. Always do heavy duty. LW alloys have zero mass, and it cannot be increased (since you always get zero if you try to multiply by zero). Thus, heavy duty lightweight alloys = zero mass and all other features. Also install deep plating for extra bit of hull boost.
2. Slightly worse in terms of absolute integrity, but somewhat better resists (and thus, slightly better actual HP against thermal\kinetic\explosive damage).

 

[Rebel Yell]

1: Never, ever do lightweight mod on base lightweight alloys. Always do heavy duty. LW alloys have zero mass, and it cannot be increased (since you always get zero if you try to multiply by zero). Thus, heavy duty lightweight alloys = zero mass and all other features. Also install deep plating for extra bit of hull boost.
2. Slightly worse in terms of absolute integrity, but somewhat better resists (and thus, slightly better actual HP against thermal\kinetic\explosive damage).

G5 LW on a Reinforced Alloy gives almost same raw hull points of a LW alloy with G5 Heavy Duty mod (resistances are better on the former, of course).