General / Off-Topic Live Long and... Wither?
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Bob Lighthouse
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Wow, interesting dichotomy.
That's one of the stronger cases for vaccinations, fiduciary responsibility.
Eg
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202972/#__sec4title
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094777/
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Not happening, thankfully in the UK we have a choice. Also the doctors are aware the flu jab has a 3 percent efficacy. They just don't know what strain is due in the season. Russian roulette no thanks.
You have to give up alcohol, tobacco, meat, dairy, sweets and cakes. You have to exercise, go to bed early and wake up early.
None of this will guarantee you'll live longer, but it sure will feel like it.
Yes, the time seems longer with a regime like this.
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Bob Lighthouse
Banned
Russian roulette?
What exactly are you afraid of?
Flu kills lots of people.
Seems you're missing the point about fiduciary responsibility.
Based on the data, I'm modifying the basic plan. Can't just quit all meat in one go personally, but it can be adjusted.
Day 1 - Fast. Nothing but plain tea, no sugar. One hour medium cardio. That gives a 2500 cal deficit.
Day 2 - Refeed. Normal diet, with more emphasis on plant protein and fish, but meat is OK for one meal. Two hours heavy lifting, with high protein intake after. Est. 200 cal deficit.
Day 3 - Rest. Medium protein at 30g per 6 hour feed, low carb. Mostly plant protein. Looking for 800 cal deficit.
Running these micro cycles now, losing about a pound of fat every 3 days, and getting stronger. I get 48 hours protein synthesis following weightlifting, and still maintain/grow muscle. Once I hit the body composition target, I'll reset the macros.
Day 1 - Fast. Nothing but plain tea, no sugar. One hour medium cardio. That gives a 2500 cal deficit.
Day 2 - Refeed. Normal diet, with more emphasis on plant protein and fish, but meat is OK for one meal. Two hours heavy lifting, with high protein intake after. Est. 200 cal deficit.
Day 3 - Rest. Medium protein at 30g per 6 hour feed, low carb. Mostly plant protein. Looking for 800 cal deficit.
Running these micro cycles now, losing about a pound of fat every 3 days, and getting stronger. I get 48 hours protein synthesis following weightlifting, and still maintain/grow muscle. Once I hit the body composition target, I'll reset the macros.
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Bob Lighthouse
Banned
What's your total protein intake to body mass ratio at?
185 pounds mass total.
Day 1 - zero protein, obviously
Day 2 - 4 meals @ 40 grams = 160 grams (lifting day)
Day 3 - 4 meals @ 30 grams = 120 grams
3 day total - 280 grams, or 94 grams/day average
- so roughly 0.5 grams per pound per day.
Remember, I'm an older "experienced" lifter, so I'm not likely to be gaining overall at any fast rate here, especially in a "cutting" phase. The idea is to switch MTOR on with heavy exercise, dose with leucine(protein) every 6 hours for 36-48 hours, and then fast to switch on GH secretion.
Feed frequency faster than Q6H fails because of "muscle-full" phenomenon.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2760315/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Resistance_exercise-induced_muscle_protein_synthesis.jpg
I know it's a compromise, and am open to improvements or suggestions.
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Bob Lighthouse
Banned
Interesting, that's rather low in lifting circles, even considering the fast.
How do you feel energy wise, DOMS etc?
Bah, I have to give blood tomorrow all of a sudden, and then it's Christmas. Life never lets us get ahead with the plans.
I'm doing OK subjectively. Might have to take this up again after things settle down later.
I'm doing OK subjectively. Might have to take this up again after things settle down later.