Logitech X56 Rhino

I have just purchased a Logitech X56 Rhino to replace my T1600M which has finally deterioted to the point where I can use the throttle slider to control the yaw function. What is everyone's opinion of the X56 as a Hotas system?

Also does anyone have any pointers for the best way to set it up?

Also I have purchased a powered USB 3.0 hub as I think that is the best way to go to prevent BSOD's which I have heard it can cause when plugged directly into the PC's USB ports.
 
What is everyone's opinion of the X56 as a Hotas system?

I honestly wouldn't spend that kinda money on a Logitech stick. Were I looking to spend that amount of money and wanted a throttle, I would get a VKB NXT and either a CHS throttle or a good condition Logitech throttle secondhand. I got an x52 throttle practically mint for $55 off ebay. The Logitech joystick is simply no comparison to the NXT.
 
Yeah, a virpil throttle would be my pitch for that money, or the VKB TECS when it comes out, possibly (my VKB experience wasn't too good, actually, but most people seem to like them).

It' LL work fine, though, try and match your t 16000m mappings so it's intuitive!
 
I have just purchased a Logitech X56 Rhino to replace my T1600M which has finally deterioted to the point where I can use the throttle slider to control the yaw function. What is everyone's opinion of the X56 as a Hotas system?

Also does anyone have any pointers for the best way to set it up?

Also I have purchased a powered USB 3.0 hub as I think that is the best way to go to prevent BSOD's which I have heard it can cause when plugged directly into the PC's USB ports.

Keep the receipt LG build quality isn't what it used to be.
 
Love mine. I'd heard about the quality issues and sure enough, my first one started crapping out after 6 months (loads of vids on how to repair it tho). I bought it from Amazon as they were doing a 2 year no questions asked warranty and got a next day replacement. It's been reliable for nearly 4 years <touch wood> and still going strong (probably more luck than design tbh), tho I reallly only use it for space sims and I do take long breaks.
Powered hub is a good idea and bindings are a personal preference, but you can check out mine if you want:
Source: https://i.imgur.com/QgC9DZO.png

Again, I love, love, love it :)
 
Mine has been okay for a couple of years but there are a couple of dodgy buttons now. With hindsight I should have shelled a bit more, but it's given me a lot of pleasure. Has been good for the game too.
 
Mine's been going well since 2016 or so. It was an early MadKatz model, so from before the quality increased when Logitech took over. The same thing happened as happened to the X-55 it replaced: The twist spring broke in the joystick, so I lost yaw. I spent most of the time after that using yaw-into-roll, but have since programmed the "C" ministick to yaw thrust. That works fine as long as I don't need to fire the secondary fire group at the same time I'm yawing (programmed to "A"), as my right thumb doesn't bifurcate.

Otherwise the best and most durable stick I've had. Have lasted a lot longer than the parade of Wico sticks I went through back in the mid 80s.

:D S
 
Mine lasted 13 months before the throttle mini-stick lost one of its axes. (now returned under warranty)
But, apart from that there are enough buttons and switches to put all of the most used commands in easy-to-reach locations, and the stick & throttle are a pleasure to use.

My one gave lots of 'ghost inputs' on the throttle when plugged into a USB 2 port, but was flawless when in a USB 3 one, so your idea of using a powered hub is a good one.

Buy yourself some Silicone Dry Lubricant spray for the Stick as they get 'squeaky' after time..
 
Greetings,

You did your homework purchasing the powered USB hub resolving the amperage requirements of the X-56. Some computers in the past divided the available amperage among the system board USB ports which caused problems.

There is an X-56 grey and blue. The grey is Logitech's latest release which supposedly resolved previous issues with the blue and Saitek's X-55 version in the past. Having used all 3 over the years I can say that the switches are solid while the hats get 'loose' over time. The change was so slow I didn't notice it until after 3 years I replaced an X-55 with the X-56 blue. The throttle is always stiff (too much grease?) but it works fine after wearing it in. The joystick on any model has YAW centering problems even the grey was supposed to fix which didn't last long. Recalibration is regularly needed to keep it useful.

The good news. When it comes to Elite Dangerous bindings this HOTAS was made for them. All those double throw toggle switches on the throttle are perfect for all the many commands in the game. That's 2 commands for each switch. The 2 hats on the throttle and the 3 on the joystick cover all the bases with look around, PIPs, thrusters, next/previous targeting etc. The blue and grey also have a unique analog thumb stick on the throttle and on the thumb secondary fire on the joystick. This provides awesome thruster controls when manually scooping up materials and my throttle stick makes using the Full Spectrum Scanner very fast. My best time was a 48 planet system in about 4 minutes. The engineers really nailed the game interface design. Pick your favorite flight simulator (I'm X-Plane 11) and you are all set.

Now if the hardware guys would work out the quality and ergonomics. It's all plastic but if it works I don't care. Actually I like it versus a Warthog metal joystick as it is always COLD to my hand. Over time the X-56 joystick gets 'loose' and letting go of the stick does not guarantee that you are not going to be making a turn with FA on. It gets worse with FA off. The base of the joystick can stick and creep so I keep a small jar of Vaseline to keep the moving parts lubricated. The joystick is BIG and medium/small hands are going to have issues. Logitech provides a snap-on plate to the palm base but it is a joke. Maybe someone should design a set of stick-on pads to this plate to adjust for different hand sizes.

One could replace the joystick with all it's issues with the Warthog or European versions with Virpil or VKB on a waiting list but keep the throttle. The Warthog less the analog thumb stick matches the X-56 but needs pedals for yaw issues.

But the biggest problem for me is how the prices for HOTAS have exploded over the past year. I bought all mine for less than $250.00 sometimes on sale and now even an X-56 blue goes for $400.00 - $560.00. The Warthog throttle and joystick averaging $800.00. This is absolutely nuts. Bring a Elite fan I bought all the Thrust master toys including the pedals to test them so I may have to go to them when my X-56 grey dies. Maybe I should smuggle in Chinese versions to the USA crossing the border from Mexico...

Meanwhile Odyssey is coming on March 29th. What additional bindings will we need while walking around in spiffy space suits? Luckily you own an X-56 throttle with 3 modes to dial them in.

Anyway there are many bindings you can find on google with the X-55/56 series.. Other than 2 analog thumb switches with the X-56 blue and grey not much has changed.

UPDATE: My X-56 grey joystick is wearing out and I can replace it with the blue joystick in-game (ED doesn't notice ) but it doesn't help. Calibrating in Windows see the analog thumb stick and not the XYZ of the joystick! So I ordered the VKB Gladiator NXT from China to replace it keeping the X-56 throttle. We'll see.

Regards
 
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The Warthog throttle and joystick averaging $800.00
That is interesting - here in the UK I bought the same kit a week ago for £400 - less than $600!
Makes a change for us here to not be paying the same price in £ as the USA does $ (unless you are in the antipodes when it works out around the same in $AUS)
 
I have just purchased a Logitech X56 Rhino to replace my T1600M which has finally deterioted to the point where I can use the throttle slider to control the yaw function. What is everyone's opinion of the X56 as a Hotas system?

Also does anyone have any pointers for the best way to set it up?

Also I have purchased a powered USB 3.0 hub as I think that is the best way to go to prevent BSOD's which I have heard it can cause when plugged directly into the PC's USB ports.
Love my x56 and had it for about a year, however some of the buttons on the stick seem to switch off mid flight. The stick still works, just not the top buttons. if i unplug the usb and plug it back in it works again. i think it’s related to the power through the usb so getting the powered hub might be the way to go. i think ill get one myself but thought id mention it.
 
I'm in the USA and look up prices on Amazon. They are nuts. Maybe I shroud buy from the UK. Well I did purchase street tires for my mountain bike from the UK which were to best. Go figure.
 
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If you're really into Elite or flying games and reckon you'll be playing alot - order yourself a Virpil Alpha now as it's a great stick replacement which you won't regret.
I'm on my 2nd X56 - only using the throttle and lost ministick last night which turned out to be a broken wire after a month use.
Had to reroute the wires inside slightly so they weren't stressed with the throttle movement, which had broken the wire.

Take your throttle apart and watch the wires as you move the throttle to make sure they aren't being stressed and move them if necessary.
 
Love my x56 and had it for about a year, however some of the buttons on the stick seem to switch off mid flight. The stick still works, just not the top buttons. if i unplug the usb and plug it back in it works again. i think it’s related to the power through the usb so getting the powered hub might be the way to go. i think ill get one myself but thought id mention it.
A powered USB hub which are actually very cheap fixes this. I complained to Logitech years ago why didn't they include this for the HOTAS. Naturally I didn't get a reply.
 
X56 owner here. And I've posts galore on the subject.
Mine is the old saitek blue. And works perfectly.
It was reconditioned installing new wiring soldering terminals etc. And I've spares. The base units even have their own power switches.
The reason this combo is good is the mini sticks and the 5 hats.
Yes 5!@
For Vr user like me muscle memory UI is perfect. Only niggle is the sticks a bit too long.
Posted about lowering lighting and powered hub on throttle only.
Since then no ghosting wotsoever.
My G2 reverb uses alot of USB juice as does the water cpu cooler system etc I think my little board is maxed in terms of serving all these devices and half been expecting things to go south...but they haven't.
2060rtx powering it all. I'm truly very happy with this stick n throttle.
BTW I bought it on ebay for 130 quid. Plus 60 quid for 2 spare sticks n bases (bases non functional but good for parts).
Best stick out there apart from the new extremely expensive ones.

o7
 
For those who don't have hands the size of spades and own an X56 - 3D print a riser - project I found linked below:
 
Mine lasted 13 months before the throttle mini-stick lost one of its axes. (now returned under warranty)
But, apart from that there are enough buttons and switches to put all of the most used commands in easy-to-reach locations, and the stick & throttle are a pleasure to use.

My one gave lots of 'ghost inputs' on the throttle when plugged into a USB 2 port, but was flawless when in a USB 3 one, so your idea of using a powered hub is a good one.

Buy yourself some Silicone Dry Lubricant spray for the Stick as they get 'squeaky' after time..

I can second this - you will need to lube your shaft as it gets squeaky and creaky with age. Make sure to use a non oily lube though, and don't get it into the wrong crack. You only need a little bit of lube to get it running smoothly and like it's new to the game. Give your shaft some love and it'll serve you well.
 
Love mine, hate mine too. I think everyone finds this, but its the best consumer hotas you can buy (not the specialised ones) so thats nice.

There's too many controls to memorise from someone else. Even trying to read a piece of paper and map the controls would be a nightmare.

Plug it in and play the game. As soon as you need a control, go into the controls and set it up. Keep playing and keep mapping until its done. You can get almost everything on the hotas without needing to switch modes. This process takes about an hour or a bit more first time around. But by the end of it you know where the controls are because you made it up... and everything is where it makes sense for you. Beats looking at a printout of keys like the 90s. Actually i miss those days..

EDIT: Also for reliability, im on year 3.5ish now for my logitech grey, no problems. Still very tanky. The joystick's deadzone has evolved a bit but im also using the lightest spring. Apart from barely noticable rubber coating wear (and only on the detachable palm rest), after a clean it feels like the day i got it.
 
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