Massive thank you to FD for letting discover scanners show the surface of planets!

This is now a sad thread.

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Except it doesn't. The Discovery Scanners still only show the wireframe of the planet. To get the map, you need to do a basic scan of the planet itself.
I saw this in the patch notes and assumed:

- Show planet surfaces in the system map without needing the surface scan

That it was a thing. I'll boot it up and check for myself then when it finishes downloading. Obsidian, is there any way for you to get confirmation that it's working as intended or if it's a bug?
 
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It means you dont need the DSS, any scanner will do. But you need to scan the planet itself.

ADS provides the map (as presumably so would BDS, IDS); DSS doesn't, correct. And yes we have to scan every landable body to get it's detailed map. DSS is still the same 'data' collector it always was.

edit: this is working as intended; whether this is what Mike, Sandro or the intern decided, is anyone's guess at this point. I think they are all super-tired and are basically unintelligible at this point.
 
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Well, the silver lining at least is that planets show a bit more detail on the system map, as well as rotate based on their actual rotation speed. For some of the more odd/interesting planets, they stand out at least enough to make you want to go and take a closer look.

Did some checking over various systems I've explored (fully and not) out towards Barnaard's Loop and found many of the interesting moons I'd visited, actually looked interesting on the default system map. That's a step in the right direction at least.
 
ADS provides the map (as presumably so would BDS, IDS); DSS doesn't, correct. And yes we have to scan every landable body to get it's detailed map. DSS is still the same 'data' collector it always was.

edit: this is working as intended; whether this is what Mike, Sandro or the intern decided, is anyone's guess at this point. I think they are all super-tired and are basically unintelligible at this point.
Sooo...basically it was to much to hope that I actually got a QoL feature I could use...

Well, the silver lining at least is that planets show a bit more detail on the system map, as well as rotate based on their actual rotation speed. For some of the more odd/interesting planets, they stand out at least enough to make you want to go and take a closer look.

Did some checking over various systems I've explored (fully and not) out towards Barnaard's Loop and found many of the interesting moons I'd visited, actually looked interesting on the default system map. That's a step in the right direction at least.
So if I squint really hard I may find something of note?

Better then nothing for sure. Don't get me wrong, if it really did help you find some interesting things then I can be a little bit happy with that at least I guess.
 
Let me get this right, when I jump in and honk (and I have ADS and DSS), it shows every body in the system but there's no way of telling what a body is until I SC up to it and scan it now?
 
In all honesty, I do wonder what kind of 'explorer' considers 'not having to explore the thing you want to see fully' a 'QoL improvement'. Wouldn't it make more sense to just look at pictures from google images and skip the boring 'flying a spaceship' part completely altogether? :S

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Let me get this right, when I jump in and honk (and I have ADS and DSS), it shows every body in the system but there's no way of telling what a body is until I SC up to it and scan it now?
No, thats not it. Everything is like 2.1, except we now have a new detailed surface map. To get this extra map you need to scan the planet. So you still get all the info you got before, and you can get more info from scanning it.
 
Does the DSS do anything special at the moment, like saying what materials are there?

Or is it still just cash boost only?
 
Except it doesn't. The Discovery Scanners still only show the wireframe of the planet. To get the map, you need to do a basic scan of the planet itself.

Nice! :D

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Does the DSS do anything special at the moment, like saying what materials are there?

Or is it still just cash boost only?

It gives you a breakdown the materials you find in your SRV, yes.
 
In all honesty, I do wonder what kind of 'explorer' considers 'not having to explore the thing you want to see fully' a 'QoL improvement'. Wouldn't it make more sense to just look at pictures from google images and skip the boring 'flying a spaceship' part completely altogether? :S

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No, thats not it. Everything is like 2.1, except we now have a new detailed surface map. To get this extra map you need to scan the planet. So you still get all the info you got before, and you can get more info from scanning it.

Rep to you CMDR. You spoke common sense.
 
Gotcha, thanks for the explanation.
Sounds interesting and look forward to seeing it for myself, once I get out of work for the day.

No, thats not it. Everything is like 2.1, except we now have a new detailed surface map. To get this extra map you need to scan the planet. So you still get all the info you got before, and you can get more info from scanning it.

OT: I've always liked Mr Del Naja's art too.
 
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In all honesty, I do wonder what kind of 'explorer' considers 'not having to explore the thing you want to see fully' a 'QoL improvement'. Wouldn't it make more sense to just look at pictures from google images and skip the boring 'flying a spaceship' part completely altogether? :S
If you wonder in all honesty, you might want to check out one of the 6 threads about this. :)

The aim is to land on and explore more planets.

5 of those threads were in 2.2 feedback, so they be gone. But, there's always the sticky.
 
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In all honesty, I do wonder what kind of 'explorer' considers 'not having to explore the thing you want to see fully' a 'QoL improvement'. Wouldn't it make more sense to just look at pictures from google images and skip the boring 'flying a spaceship' part completely altogether? :S

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No, thats not it. Everything is like 2.1, except we now have a new detailed surface map. To get this extra map you need to scan the planet. So you still get all the info you got before, and you can get more info from scanning it.

m8, when I can fly up to a planet and SEE it before the scanner can record it, maybe the detail map becomes a bit redundant at that point? And who is flying 700,000ls to see if a planet has interesting features to explore?

Yeah it sort of makes sense, until you realise the game isn't built for that to make sense. I mean it's not even the DSS that's creating the map, it's the astronomical scanner. If ADS/ / IDS had a much greater planetary scan range, I'd not care.

But when you are literally driving over planets and can eyeball features, before the thing roars into life, it's all a bit silly.
 
In all honesty, I do wonder what kind of 'explorer' considers 'not having to explore the thing you want to see fully' a 'QoL improvement'. Wouldn't it make more sense to just look at pictures from google images and skip the boring 'flying a spaceship' part completely altogether? :S

I guess I'm a really "crappy" explorer then:

[video=youtube;CSwte6iXCQ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSwte6iXCQ8[/video]

Look at that! Clearly I have no sense at all for exploration.

Never mind that ObsidianAnt himself also supported this and while he and I both understand where the other perspective comes from. We both, as explorers wanted ADS to show the map.

Let me tell you something buddy. Being able to see the map of planets would have made it so that I would have gone to MORE planets. That is why I wanted it. I wanted to NEVER miss out on an interesting planet to land on.

I have gone to so many places, seen SO many things. Landed on hundreds upon hundreds of planets before the idea of ADS showing surface maps was even a thing.

Just because I wanted a tool to find even more interesting places in LESS time does not make me any less of an explorer. I had over 600,000 LY traveled and over 30,000 jumps before I lost my account. Do you honestly think that with a pedigree like that and videos I made like the one I just posted, that I want to "google images of planets?"

It's one thing to disagree with me, but please never question my integrity as an explorer in this game. Thank you.
 
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