General / Off-Topic Mental Health Issues Thread

There have been surprisingly healthy discussion about mental health around these forums and I think it is time for some sort of mega thread where we can have some offtopic chatter about it.

Mental issues - for all kinds of people, races, backgrounds, genders, professions - has been very difficult topic because of how we approach it. We often despise our own weaknesses and we don't love to see them in other people. We think we struggle alone and that if we can't deal with that, it makes failed as human beings.

This stigma and struggling alone have made me quite a damaged person with very strange couping mechanisms. There's no denial about that. What's done, done. What's important to talk about with somebody, not only yourself, find healthy ways to deal with it, and seek help if situation becomes critical.

I have struggled with mild depression for as long as I can remember now - for so long I don't even remember what 'feeling normal' really means, it is all ups and downs for me. I throw myself between deep end of lazyiness and apathy and gold rush of activity, self-pity and self-loathing, not wanting to go anywhere and wanting to run away. I have never seek help because I have always thought that is is part of me, something I can't really change - and that might be partially true - but I only start to figure out small ways to improve my life only recently. I am still struggling and it is steep uphill process, but I feel I at least have a shot of having better life conditions set by my own.

So how I am dealing with it? Physical activities can help huge deal, especially if you are office worker. They need to be planned, they need to be both high activity and low activity (like walking). They do work for some time and create positive feedback loop which helps a great deal. Gaming is another topic. I don't need to find confirmation of my skills in game, I know what I can and what I can't do. Challenge is part of appeal and beating some obstacles make me feel better, but I mostly find myself playing them just to chill. Amazingly, ED works really well in that regard, but also Civilization V/VI, Team Fortess 2 and other games have given me relief.

Another, much difficult, yet still effective way to fight this is set smaller goals and beat them. They might sound trivial, but sometimes it is only way I can move forward.
 
it is all ups and downs for me. I throw myself between deep end of lazyiness and apathy and gold rush of activity, self-pity and self-loathing, not wanting to go anywhere and wanting to run away.
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This. I had an accident nearly 4 years ago that has taken away my mobility and this is exactly how I feel. I am getting help from professionals and my family but its still difficult - I love playing Elite it really helps (I don't know why) but I wont talk on discord even though I play mostly in Open.
 
I have to say that running a business and being more or less on my own has some unwanted effects on me, too.

But both Elite (and in broader sense gaming in general) as well as regular sport activities do help to enjoy the highs and make the lows tolerable.
I don't know where I would be without either of them. Or you, guys. :)
 
OP, you hit a lot of 'me too' notes there.

I'm definitely on the spectrum - it's never been officially diagnosed but I've done enough tests and yeah.

I find it incredibly hard to be sociable. What's even worse is that I'm apparent very good at faking it.

I've definitely had an issue with stress. Definitely. And I strongly suspect that I suffer from depression to some extent. My moods sometimes can be terribly, terribly black, and deep inside I know there's no (or little) reason for it, but that voice just gets drowned out.

I can't do 'social' stuff very well. Drag me to a party and there's a 90% chance I'll just go catatonic - fix my gaze on a point on the wall and just retreat inside.

With the exception of my wife (and how I ever got and stayed married is a mystery to me) I don't have friends. At all. There's people I work with that I like, but if I never saw them again I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Part of me knows that's a shame. Most of me just doesn't care.

Sorry, this isn't very coherent...
 

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I'm a very ill individual. Years of persecution for being "different" will do that.

Now I'm schizophrenic, depressed, suicidal, and psychotic. I stay inside near 24/7, 365, and have been known to not leave the house for months on end.

Unfortunately everything that could go wrong, did. Including school teachers disclosing my Aspergers to my fellow classmates. Yeah, thanks for that, bloody idiots.

It all escalated from there. Physical and mental abuse, not to mention an abusive man who my mum was married too who would beat me at least once a day.

If there's a technical possibility if someone being able to formally a fist and punch, I avoid that situation. That's why I don't go out much. And when I do, I dress like a chav just to blend in. It works at least. Nobody gives me a second look... But I can't really talk to many people myself. I'm incredibly isolated.

I play games because I get treated like an equal. Online, nobody gives a damn about who I am. NPCs, can't tell the difference.

I won't lie. I think that modern western society is grossly intolerant of the mentally ill. We're the first to get dumped. We're dead-weight to many people.

And that, unfortunately, is why I don't go outside much. Because I'm sick of being treated like a third-class citizen in my own country.
 
I'm astounded by hearing tis sad news. Inside Elite itself I've met a few autistic people but I wasn't expecting a broader spectrum of mental illnesses to be present. It seems then that my suspected (because I have never diagnosed with it) autism comes short to you guys.

At least I have managed to deal with it and feel happy as a relatively issolated person as I trust very few people and actually nobody knows *everything* about my personal kinks.

Do you guys think Elite attracts mentally ill and if so why?
 
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I'm astounded by hearing tis sad news. Inside Elite itself I've met a few autistic people but I wasn't expecting a broader spectrum of mental illnesses to be present. It seems them that my suspected (because I have never diagnosed with it) autism comes short to you guys.

At least I have managed to deal with it and feel happy as a relatively issolated person as I trust very few people and actually nobody knows *everything* about my personal kinks.

Do you guys think Elite attracts mentally ill and if so why?

It is a universe where I'm not important, and the world is indifferent to me. I get ignored. That's a dream for me.
 

Minonian

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I'm astounded by hearing tis sad news. Inside Elite itself I've met a few autistic people but I wasn't expecting a broader spectrum of mental illnesses to be present. It seems them that my suspected (because I have never diagnosed with it) autism comes short to you guys.

At least I have managed to deal with it and feel happy as a relatively issolated person as I trust very few people and actually nobody knows *everything* about my personal kinks.

Do you guys think Elite attracts mentally ill and if so why?
You too? :)

There is more than a few amongst us for sure.
 
There have been surprisingly healthy discussion about mental health around these forums and I think it is time for some sort of mega thread where we can have some offtopic chatter about it.

Mental issues - for all kinds of people, races, backgrounds, genders, professions - has been very difficult topic because of how we approach it. We often despise our own weaknesses and we don't love to see them in other people. We think we struggle alone and that if we can't deal with that, it makes failed as human beings.

This stigma and struggling alone have made me quite a damaged person with very strange couping mechanisms. There's no denial about that. What's done, done. What's important to talk about with somebody, not only yourself, find healthy ways to deal with it, and seek help if situation becomes critical.

I have struggled with mild depression for as long as I can remember now - for so long I don't even remember what 'feeling normal' really means, it is all ups and downs for me. I throw myself between deep end of lazyiness and apathy and gold rush of activity, self-pity and self-loathing, not wanting to go anywhere and wanting to run away. I have never seek help because I have always thought that is is part of me, something I can't really change - and that might be partially true - but I only start to figure out small ways to improve my life only recently. I am still struggling and it is steep uphill process, but I feel I at least have a shot of having better life conditions set by my own.

So how I am dealing with it? Physical activities can help huge deal, especially if you are office worker. They need to be planned, they need to be both high activity and low activity (like walking). They do work for some time and create positive feedback loop which helps a great deal. Gaming is another topic. I don't need to find confirmation of my skills in game, I know what I can and what I can't do. Challenge is part of appeal and beating some obstacles make me feel better, but I mostly find myself playing them just to chill. Amazingly, ED works really well in that regard, but also Civilization V/VI, Team Fortess 2 and other games have given me relief.

Another, much difficult, yet still effective way to fight this is set smaller goals and beat them. They might sound trivial, but sometimes it is only way I can move forward.

Thanks for this really positive thread CMDR, I'll write back as soon as I have a little time to contribute.
 

Minonian

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It is a universe where I'm not important, and the world is indifferent to me. I get ignored. That's a dream for me.
And i just simply threw out the unwanted "trash". This much is rightful and trying to make sure i pick the choice with whom and how.
 
Great post OP. A topic that's very hard to talk about but certainly necessary and helpful.

I've had my own issues and for the longest time wouldn't even know where or how to start with it all. I used to think it was weakness and that's probably why I wouldn't seek any help or even think about it. Seeing people like Mike Tyson talk about his situation and seeing that it still affects him to this day, Rodney Mullen as well, made me realise that it is ok to admit to these things, even if they are painful. In fact it takes more guts to talk about it than it does to pretend it's not there.
 
Great thread, +rep.

Interesting to me that the posters being introspective here seem to be some of the more rational and well adjusted in the forum at large imo.
I suspect those that could use such introspection the most will pass on by, unfortunately.


The holidays can be a tough time for many people.
Best wishes to all you CMDRs out there, introspective or otherwise.

o7
 
Elite helps because you are occupying yourself. I found that learning a martial art really helped. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu will give you such a healthy experience with people it will restore your faith in others. You have to want to improve your life. Start with your diet go plant based and get down your nearest MMA/BJJ gym. In 2 weeks if you stick at it you'll feel the benefits. If you think you are not capable of going out and convince yourself otherwise then you should seek professional help.

Overcoming the confines of the mind and stopping being a prisoner of other peoples thoughts can be uncomfortable until you tell yourself otherwise. Good luck people
 
There have been surprisingly healthy discussion about mental health around these forums and I think it is time for some sort of mega thread where we can have some offtopic chatter about it.

Mental issues - for all kinds of people, races, backgrounds, genders, professions - has been very difficult topic because of how we approach it. We often despise our own weaknesses and we don't love to see them in other people. We think we struggle alone and that if we can't deal with that, it makes failed as human beings.

This stigma and struggling alone have made me quite a damaged person with very strange couping mechanisms. There's no denial about that. What's done, done. What's important to talk about with somebody, not only yourself, find healthy ways to deal with it, and seek help if situation becomes critical.

I have struggled with mild depression for as long as I can remember now - for so long I don't even remember what 'feeling normal' really means, it is all ups and downs for me. I throw myself between deep end of lazyiness and apathy and gold rush of activity, self-pity and self-loathing, not wanting to go anywhere and wanting to run away. I have never seek help because I have always thought that is is part of me, something I can't really change - and that might be partially true - but I only start to figure out small ways to improve my life only recently. I am still struggling and it is steep uphill process, but I feel I at least have a shot of having better life conditions set by my own.

So how I am dealing with it? Physical activities can help huge deal, especially if you are office worker. They need to be planned, they need to be both high activity and low activity (like walking). They do work for some time and create positive feedback loop which helps a great deal. Gaming is another topic. I don't need to find confirmation of my skills in game, I know what I can and what I can't do. Challenge is part of appeal and beating some obstacles make me feel better, but I mostly find myself playing them just to chill. Amazingly, ED works really well in that regard, but also Civilization V/VI, Team Fortess 2 and other games have given me relief.

Another, much difficult, yet still effective way to fight this is set smaller goals and beat them. They might sound trivial, but sometimes it is only way I can move forward.
Yes I can relate to most of that.

Escaping is the easiest way to 'switch it off'; but may not be the best thing, in the long term. I love to use this place and games to 'switch off', because if my mind is not occupied, things just fester, which is not good. I also do voluntary work and this really helps with my personal levels of self-worth.

However: Professional help is a must; which is a nightmare in this country, due to the lack of funding etc.. You really have to push your needs with the doctors etc.. Something I may preach, but find very hard to do. I am a wise old man, so my ego and guilt, tells me I can deal with it, without running cap-in-hand to the NHS and admit, I have a problem.
 
For many people, games are a refuge, definitely.

The internet is, in some ways, a great equaliser. In other ways, not so much - it enables everyone, even those who fear and hate difference.

Personally, I've always found a great deal of consolation (a term that doesn't get much use these days) in philosophy. I really enjoy Diogenes for his love of bursting bubbles - "Behold! I have brought you a man!" (although, sadly, he left no writings of his own) and Michel de Montaigne. Nietzche is too often misunderstood by tryhard edgelords, although he does have a great deal to say that speaks to the human condition.
 

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Yes I can relate to most of that.

Escaping is the easiest way to 'switch it off'; but may not be the best thing, in the long term. I love to use this place and games to 'switch off', because if my mind is not occupied, things just fester, which is not good. I also do voluntary work and this really helps with my personal levels of self-worth.

However: Professional help is a must; which is a nightmare in this country, due to the lack of funding etc.. You really have to push your needs with the doctors etc.. Something I may preach, but find very hard to do. I am a wise old man, so my ego and guilt, tells me I can deal with it, without running cap-in-hand to the NHS and admit, I have a problem.

Tell me about it. I've had literal fits of raw rage, right in front of the bloody doctor. Still nothing.

Mental health "care" in the UK?

Don't make me laugh.
 
Tell me about it. I've had literal fits of raw rage, right in front of the bloody doctor. Still nothing.

Mental health "care" in the UK?

Don't make me laugh.
Freeview channel 23 at 8pm tonight. That should put a smile on your face for an hour.
 

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What particularly bothers me, is when people say "Why don't you just, you know, not think about whatever bothers you?"

...

Gee, that never occurred to me.

I can't stop flashbacks. I can't stop people heckling me because they read how vulnerable I am from my body language.

People tell me to just forget the past. I don't think they understand that having a long memory like mine isn't optional. I wish I could just forget. Why on Earth would I want to remember my school life? I was bottom of the food chain from day 1. There were no happy memories. There was no adventure, no romance, no success. It was torture, in its purest form.
 

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And the saddest part? Those bullies, who robbed me of a worthwhile childhood, and an abusive step-father who ensured I had no respite... They all got away with it.

None of them have ever faced justice. Hell, in a lot of cases, the law protected them at my expense.

Like I say, being mentally ill in the UK may as well be a death sentence.
 
What particularly bothers me, is when people say "Why don't you just, you know, not think about whatever bothers you?"

...

Gee, that never occurred to me.

I can't stop flashbacks. I can't stop people heckling me because they read how vulnerable I am from my body language.

People tell me to just forget the past. I don't think they understand that having a long memory like mine isn't optional. I wish I could just forget. Why on Earth would I want to remember my school life? I was bottom of the food chain from day 1. There were no happy memories. There was no adventure, no romance, no success. It was torture, in its purest form.
You can pull through those experiences and become stronger from them. Don't get caught up in a victim mindset. People will pick up on this subconsciously and they will never respect you. Hard training and a clean diet will make you physically feel great and the mind will follow. I know all too well the feeling of hopelessness. I countered it with exercise and getting involved with the martial arts. people will have your back as you forge unbreakable bonds on the mats or in the gym. There is a way out you just got to get uncomfortable first.
 
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