Engineers Micro-weave cooling hoses...myth or rumour

I have been running missions for 4 days now then have resorted to the Robigo log in and out dance and as yet am still to see this "common" commodity being offered as a reward so am starting to believe that they are just a myth. I really want to give my canyon racing eagle a G3 dirty drive tune,but it seems it'll never happen. It does seem like spawn rates certainly have issues,I've seen quite a lot of "rares" offered,but won't be picking any up till needed or until we get storage. So I guess what I'm really saying is "SIGH"
 
I've seen them once, I honestly can't remember where though as I was looking for something else at the time, sorry... but they definately do exist :)
 
I have been running missions for 4 days now then have resorted to the Robigo log in and out dance and as yet am still to see this "common" commodity being offered as a reward so am starting to believe that they are just a myth. I really want to give my canyon racing eagle a G3 dirty drive tune,but it seems it'll never happen. It does seem like spawn rates certainly have issues,I've seen quite a lot of "rares" offered,but won't be picking any up till needed or until we get storage. So I guess what I'm really saying is "SIGH"

No idea if it's true, but another commander was getting the feeling that the engineer components were more common near the engineer that uses them. It might be worth checking missions in and near their system just in case he is right.
 
I've seen exactly 1 mission (in the same system as Farseer) that provided 4 Micro-weave cooling hoses, which I promptly grabbed and completed. I've only found 2 Legacy Firmware (1 mission reward, 1 USS) so now I have 2 hoses weighing down my iCourier. At least I can now boost above 550m/s with my dirty drives (installed the second one on my Python).
 
There appear to be two prevailing theories about these commodity missions:

1) They're purely random. If true then any system in any state is just as good as any other state and mode switching/relogging is a viable approach to getting a target mission to pop up.

2) They're not random, they're tied at some level to reputation, system state or economy, in that case mode switching/relogging is a potentially horrendous activity since you may be waiting forever for a very low or zero percent chance.

Personally I drift from system to system, pick one mission for something I truly need, grab any other missions that are headed the same way and jump. This means I'm constantly hitting different economies in different states. It also means I have a large growing set of systems where I'm at least cordial with the locals. I never have any issue building up an inventory of mission only commodities. I currently have 5 hoses, I've had more but I spent some and lost some when I went full metal stupid during a T7 mining incident.

So my simple advice, don't waste time refreshing, if you don't see what you want move on.

No idea if it's true, but another commander was getting the feeling that the engineer components were more common near the engineer that uses them. It might be worth checking missions in and near their system just in case he is right.

Possibly that was me, I've certainly voiced that suspicion. After spending a lot of time poking at the BGS or mineral gathering (which are similar in nature at some level) I'm fairly convinced it's not simply random, it's just sufficiently complex that it appears so because we haven't done any statistical analysis. I'd spin up some research into it but I haven't had enough need to warrant spending the time.

What we need is something like the monster with an interface where people can record the following data:
  • Commodity or data type (cooling hoses, fractured fairy tale firmware etc)
  • System
  • Station
  • Surface or Orbital
  • Economy (industrial, high tech etc)
  • State (boom, war, bust, famine etc)
  • Faction political stance (corporate, dictator etc) since they give different mission types
  • reputation (neutral, cordial etc)

What would be truly sexy would be to tie it in to something like ED Discovery or another mapping interface and see from the system names whether commodities are regional. During Beta I was half convinced they were.
 
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'Kay, so, you guys KNOW there's a spreadsheet that tells you where to buy these? That's existed for over a week now? It's not hard to find. In fact, the thread is pinned.
 
When I have needed them I have just picked them up from missions in the same system as the Engineers base.
Whether they are more common there or not though I have no idea.
 
'Kay, so, you guys KNOW there's a spreadsheet that tells you where to buy these? That's existed for over a week now? It's not hard to find. In fact, the thread is pinned.

Reading it and comprehending it though is apparently harder. There are several commodities that are mission only, they can't be bought. Microweave Cooling hoses (topic at hand) is one such item.
 
All that would be in the Engineering webapp (development has started), providing we can pull market data from eddb.io. If you're comfy with that sorta skills, holler at me anytime...

EDIT: Regarding mission rewards, just comment on the Doc with the details.
 
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Personally I drift from system to system, pick one mission for something I truly need, grab any other missions that are headed the same way and jump. This means I'm constantly hitting different economies in different states. It also means I have a large growing set of systems where I'm at least cordial with the locals. I never have any issue building up an inventory of mission only commodities. I currently have 5 hoses, I've had more but I spent some and lost some when I went full metal stupid during a T7 mining incident.


^^^
This

I have been doing this since the launch of 2.1, not really aiming at any specific mods just collected whatever turns up.
I now have enough mats for a number of grade 3 and 4 mods .... enjoying the game without getting stressed out

Grinding for mats only leads to frustration

(now I have to grind up with the Enigneers :D )
 
I have been running missions for 4 days now then have resorted to the Robigo log in and out dance and as yet am still to see this "common" commodity being offered as a reward so am starting to believe that they are just a myth. I really want to give my canyon racing eagle a G3 dirty drive tune,but it seems it'll never happen. It does seem like spawn rates certainly have issues,I've seen quite a lot of "rares" offered,but won't be picking any up till needed or until we get storage. So I guess what I'm really saying is "SIGH"

I saw them once, accepted the mission. Hauling boom data. Get into system, station is 70,000 ls away. At about 1,000 ls away, they changed the station to another that was 25,000 ls away. I abandoned the mission because I didn't need them at the moment, and now I regret it.

DAMN YOU, ED! INCREASE DROP RATE ON RARE MATS!!!
 
check dvorsi system. chernykh ring and fowler orbital. they are very generous - m-w cooling hoes, modular terminals, mechanical components and other good stuff. theres always something. seen 6/7 missions giving 4 m-wch each once at chernykh ring lol. im there right now, grabed 5 missions - 2x1 mechanical components, 1x4 modular terminals, 1x1 specialised legacy firmware and 1x1 some fancy data..
 
Funny, hoses seem to be one of the mats I don't have a problem getting from missions. Modular Terminals or the oft-maligned Specialized Legacy Firmware on the other hand...
 
I have been running missions for 4 days now then have resorted to the Robigo log in and out dance and as yet am still to see this "common" commodity being offered as a reward so am starting to believe that they are just a myth. I really want to give my canyon racing eagle a G3 dirty drive tune,but it seems it'll never happen. It does seem like spawn rates certainly have issues,I've seen quite a lot of "rares" offered,but won't be picking any up till needed or until we get storage. So I guess what I'm really saying is "SIGH"

12 days. not. one. hose:(
 
WHYYYYYYYY did you have to tell me?! :D :D :D

It's ok I can sympathise. I got my 4 modular whatevers from another mission (why I ejected the micro weaves) and nursed them for many 100s ly. Then I accidentally popped an SCB right by a star in SC, hit 300% heat and had several cargo hatch malfunctions, now I need more modular whatevers :(
 
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Seen heaps of missions for them, but haven't needed them yet so haven't taken them. Also saw the elusive Exquisite Focus Crystal the other day. I think the station contact thought I was crazy when I started taking pictures and documenting it's existence.
 
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