The appropriateion from Cartoon Network was mostly a joke and not meant to be a perfect representation, though it occurs to me not everyone might be as abreast of children's cartoons as I am 
Miko Stargazer's Travel Log
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Did I mention before how much I love that little proverb, "The mountain laughs at the man and his chisel"? Though that other story is a pretty awesome answer to it.
Kinda funny, though. If she wants an end to imperial slaves... There's only one power that has them Xp
Also, I'm kind of sad Torval won the bet. It doesn't upset me that people support Imperial Slavery so much as the thought that one very dedicated person - or a few - with Type - 9's or Anacondas who just love the shock value of being horrible did it just to be "horrible". Eh, kind of presumptuous, but I've seen/dealt with people like that before and they annoy me.
As for my own thought on it... I have no strong opinions, really. It's voluntary. Heavens' knows contracts are more or less a real life example here in the modern U.S. - the only difference is they don't make sure you're taken care of as much.
As an example, it would probably have been preferable to be a slave in 1850 USA than a northern factory worker. Factory workers were considered a drain - and if they died, who cares, just hire another, no loss. If they can't keep up - they get fired and another comes in. Meanwhile slaves were valued as an investment. Worked, but many owners had the presence of mind to not damage/destroy their property. This, of course, meant they could do horrible things to them since they were considered property, and the sheer level of discrimination based off race was unethical, to say the least, but if I had to choose in-between being thrown in the life of an average factory worker or an average slave, I'd honestly pick the latter. The worst of slave experiences are worse than the worst of factory worker experiences, but the average and best of slave experiences were far better than the average and best of factory worker experiences (Fortunately, we now have labor laws and stuff, but yeah...).
So for the most unfortunate or unwise, it's the difference in-between struggling to live on your own, or having your life set out, but not getting to choose it. But if you've made the choices you've made out of a necessity to survive, rather than your true desires, then how much can they be said to be your own choices? Counter to that, the sentiment of them being your own, of your life being your own, is extremely important. But as I've put it mentally to myself, recently, "sentiment withers in the heat of practical necessity". At least the option is there for the slaves. It really just adds an option they didn't have before is one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that it creates competition, so there's not as many jobs, so those who do want to try it on their own find less options available to compete over. Though that doesn't necessarily reduce the options so much as categorize them.
...It's... A fascinating issue. If there are proper precautions in place to prevent abuse and murder - and if they're even somewhat effective - then I'm not sure how much I could criticize it, really, given it's based off citizens volunteering themselves into it.
Kinda funny, though. If she wants an end to imperial slaves... There's only one power that has them Xp
Also, I'm kind of sad Torval won the bet. It doesn't upset me that people support Imperial Slavery so much as the thought that one very dedicated person - or a few - with Type - 9's or Anacondas who just love the shock value of being horrible did it just to be "horrible". Eh, kind of presumptuous, but I've seen/dealt with people like that before and they annoy me.
As for my own thought on it... I have no strong opinions, really. It's voluntary. Heavens' knows contracts are more or less a real life example here in the modern U.S. - the only difference is they don't make sure you're taken care of as much.
As an example, it would probably have been preferable to be a slave in 1850 USA than a northern factory worker. Factory workers were considered a drain - and if they died, who cares, just hire another, no loss. If they can't keep up - they get fired and another comes in. Meanwhile slaves were valued as an investment. Worked, but many owners had the presence of mind to not damage/destroy their property. This, of course, meant they could do horrible things to them since they were considered property, and the sheer level of discrimination based off race was unethical, to say the least, but if I had to choose in-between being thrown in the life of an average factory worker or an average slave, I'd honestly pick the latter. The worst of slave experiences are worse than the worst of factory worker experiences, but the average and best of slave experiences were far better than the average and best of factory worker experiences (Fortunately, we now have labor laws and stuff, but yeah...).
So for the most unfortunate or unwise, it's the difference in-between struggling to live on your own, or having your life set out, but not getting to choose it. But if you've made the choices you've made out of a necessity to survive, rather than your true desires, then how much can they be said to be your own choices? Counter to that, the sentiment of them being your own, of your life being your own, is extremely important. But as I've put it mentally to myself, recently, "sentiment withers in the heat of practical necessity". At least the option is there for the slaves. It really just adds an option they didn't have before is one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that it creates competition, so there's not as many jobs, so those who do want to try it on their own find less options available to compete over. Though that doesn't necessarily reduce the options so much as categorize them.
...It's... A fascinating issue. If there are proper precautions in place to prevent abuse and murder - and if they're even somewhat effective - then I'm not sure how much I could criticize it, really, given it's based off citizens volunteering themselves into it.
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