Actually, Wiki probably pulled that from a text book .. and I'm to lazy to grab my college books ...
But, if you mean by more basic ... the simple fact that this is only a game? Fictitiously put together by people for our enjoyment?
Mining and the logic behind it ... ridiculous when you think about it.
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Actually, Wiki probably pulled that from a text book .. and I'm to lazy to grab my college books ...
But, if you mean by more basic ... the simple fact that this is only a game? Fictitiously put together by people for our enjoyment?
LOL ... think I'll stick at that level of warmness because getting any warmer simply leads me back to playing the game and not really caring about all of this, and just enjoy it for what it is ... which makes the original post and a desire for more accuracy rather pointless.
so close but still missing the point
I seriously think the mining set up right now is something along the lines of the devs saying "Let's see who does this crap". And there is nothing resembling a market in this game anyway. Maybe in time, but right now it's hunt and peck.
ray says a lot of things
I'm sure the general population uses milli-credits with piloting taking up a lot of start-up capital relative to the wage of say a station stocker.
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That's the silliest attempt ever...there is more metal available today than in history, yet the prices are the highest due to an increased demand and devalued dollars.
The point that was being made is that the 'economy' in the game is stupid and makes no sense and I agree. It was obviously not thought out by an economist. Why does my wife and I trading at a couple stations change the prices at those stations? It's tantamount to being able to buy gold in Zurich for 1/4 of the price of gold in Africa. The markets today are global and by the time we get to the point that there is trade among planetary systems, it will be a universal market place, not confined to planets just as today on earth it is not confined to countries.
They should have at least researched how economies work. Base prices will not fluctuate so drastically as they seem to think. There will be some tariffs on products from place to place and the odd local taxes added, but the price of gold, platinum, etc. is pretty constant, it won't drop or raise by 85% in a few hours.
spoiler: the entire idea of interstellar trade as seen in science fiction is absurd because there's literally nothing that exists that could possibly be valuable enough to routinely ship across multiple light years instead of simply extracting or synthesizing it on-site
even if we're going to ignore the realism problems introduced by the fact that a stardrive that not only exists in elite (!!) but is capable of radically warping space and time around an object for extended periods of time with only the energy produced by a few tons of hydrogen (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) there is 0 reason for interstellar trade to be a thing
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As I said. This should have been /thread.
I Agree. Have you ever heard of banks transporting gold and other expensive items in the back of a 40 ton truck? No, normally they transport in security vans under escort. I’d like to see freighters having higher pay loads for food stock. By rights the whole galaxy would be starving and they would pay a whole lot more for it.
As for gold, if you loaded a freighter in a star port full of gold, people would talk, unarmed, unguarded, as soon as you hit space you would have ships all over you, even in the safest of places. This is where the mission system should be upgraded in that area to point out there is a commander out there transporting such items unguarded and unarmed.
I think frontier are not finding ways of making this feel like a real economy, everybody is transporting gold around like it’s the only thing that matters. Gold should not be sold so freely and more of it should be mined. Transporting it should be very risky and need a well-defended ship or wing. So now you need a wing if you ever want to freight gold around and hire a wing for mining precious metals. Maybe when buying goods like this there should be some warning on them. Not too bad putting 4kgs in your sidewinder, but 100kgs in a lonely type 6 are asking for trouble and should attract it one way or the other. Trading food should be somewhat safer unless you are in a system that is starving and have a greater reward.
It’s very difficult to get it right but I don’t see frontier doing anything much to solve these issues with the economy to make it seem more real and that it matters.
i feel like a lot of people taking issue with the lack of realisms in the game may also be guilty of a great many anti-real ideas about what would make it more realistic
it's been said in this very thread that precious metals like gold account for ~%2 of the total mass of the milky way
that sounds like not a whole lot, but consider
if you're really hungry, would you rather have %2 of a single slice of a personal pizza, or %2 of a full jumbo city block sized family heart attack pizza? (substitute pizza for a food you actually like if you don't like the current terms of this very serious hypothetical)
consider:
the total mass of the milky way is estimated to be between around 800 million and 4.5 billion times the mass of the sun
for a little perspective, all the celestial bodies in the solar system, excluding sol itself, account for only ~%.0014 of the mass of our solar system
all the planets, moons, dwarf planets, comets, asteroids, dust, all of it put together isn't even 1/10th of a percent of our solar systems total mass
and in that tiny little 14 ten-thousandths sliver, earth's mass, and all the resources ever used by life on earth for billions of years, doesn't even account for a quarter of a percent
%2 might sound pretty scarce, but the amount of precious metals consumed by humanity throughout our entire existence on earth, every coin, necklace, temple facade, electronic gadget, car, all of it put together might as well be a microscopic particle on a factory floor compared to what we'd have to consume in order for material scarcity to to be a thing for our hypothetical future interstellar meta-civilization
it's been said in this very thread that precious metals like gold account for ~%2 of the total mass of the milky way
that sounds like not a whole lot, but consider
if you're really hungry, would you rather have %2 of a single slice of a personal pizza, or %2 of a full jumbo city block sized family heart attack pizza? (substitute pizza for a food you actually like if you don't like the current terms of this very serious hypothetical)
consider:
the total mass of the milky way is estimated to be between around 800 million and 4.5 billion times the mass of the sun
for a little perspective, all the celestial bodies in the solar system, excluding sol itself, account for only ~%.0014 of the mass of our solar system
all the planets, moons, dwarf planets, comets, asteroids, dust, all of it put together isn't even 1/10th of a percent of our solar systems total mass
and in that tiny little 14 ten-thousandths sliver, earth's mass, and all the resources ever used by life on earth for billions of years, doesn't even account for a quarter of a percent
%2 might sound pretty scarce, but the amount of precious metals consumed by humanity throughout our entire existence on earth, every coin, necklace, temple facade, electronic gadget, car, all of it put together might as well be a microscopic particle on a factory floor compared to what we'd have to consume in order for material scarcity to to be a thing for our hypothetical future interstellar meta-civilization
They'll find it even ironic, that the country that gave the world English measure doesn't even use it anymore -- the former colony does though in the American measure format to make it even more heady.
my credit card begs to differ