Mining: Which is best Bang/Buck?

Hi Laser Freak Miners and Rock Smashers!

So is it better to mine in an Icy, Rocky, Metal-Rich or Metallic?
SSD Core or Laser?

Metallic is the 'Go-To' answer but since the 'rebalancing' [AKA Nerf] some materials are SSD mined in Rocky rings, which can produce large quantities of materials very quickly... Say to fill a Cutter or Vette SSD Mining ship.

Musgravite
Benitoite
Monazite
Serendibite

Or is it better Cr/Hr laser mining in Metallic rings for:

Alexandrite
Osmium
Palladium
Gold
Silver
Samarium

Icy rings still offer some of the highest paying materials:

Void Opals
Grandidierite
LTDs
Bromellite
Tritium

So what is the current mining Meta?
Metallic / Metal-Rich / Rocky / Icy
SSD Core vs Laser mining

I don't know whether a Metallic roid will produce more tonnage than say a Rocky roid for the same % content???
Do these have the same mining rates?
If these are equivalent (all asteroid types produce the same number of fragments [t] / %) then Icy may still pay out better then the metallic roids?

What are peoples current experience with this please?

Many Thanks!
 

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I personally find it the most easy and profitable to go mass-strip mining in a Metallic Ring Hotspot for Platinum. Take a double Platinum Hotspot if you want to increase the high yields even further.
All other ores (incl. the now-very-valuable Osmium) are a very nice Bonus and the total tonnage that can be attained in a potent Mining Rig is profound.
An occasional Core Asteroid there is a mere Bonus then.

Core Mining I've almost stopped entirely due to the time and boredom factor. Exceptions are the occasional Resource Belt Cluster trips I make just for fun.
 
I don't know what's best, but the painite double hotspot in Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 gives about 50T platinum, 50T palladium, 50T Osmium, 50T gold and 200T of painite per hour from laser mining ( 4 class 2 lasers plus 12 collector limpets)

I tried laser mining the LTD triple hotspot in HIP 4351, but it was absolutely useless. Something like 100T of LTDs per 90 minute trip (350 limpets) plus maybe 100T Osmium and 50T or Tritium. I gave up after two trips. So much for those that said there's always loads of tritium in icy rings. I've yet to find anywhere where it's worth mining.

I'd say that the Painite is a bit lower than pre-nerf, but the LTDs have been annihilated. I used to be able to fill up my Cutter with painite in 90 minutes and LTDs in about 2 1/2 hours from memory.

I think I can make more money trading A-B-A than mining now. That's without finding a special trade route or exploiting the BGS.
 
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Add Painite for bubbleheads.
My preference (and I enjoy them all) for cr/hr : Metallic with correct filters, and strip mine everything interesting. Caveat : I use a Corvette from a Carrier. Not immediate cr - but in the bank.
Ice rings and core are a different experience - but more like finding big nuggets than a mother lode (and about as likely). Still fun tho'.
Combining the 2 in ice rings for Tritium and 'lucky finds' is more productive but not as lucrative (unless you can sell it high).
Always carry Abrasion blaster and Displacement thingy (if you can) - it breaks the tedium with a big hold-ed ship.
Enjoy
o7
 
Has anyone tried the strip mining method where 2 or 3 hotspots of different types overlap? I was kind of thinking that might circumvent the diminishing returns nerf for overlaps of the same mineral. I dont mine much these days so im curious like OP.
 
What D8veh said there.
Tried it tonight in the platinum / painite overlap (or whatever overlap it is, can't remember) and I got my Python loaded up real quick.
It's kind of what tickles your fancy though. I head out to a monazite or muzgravite place every once in a while as well just because I like core mining, and it makes a load of credits as well. But the one D8beh mentioned is probably faster when you really are trying to max cr/hr.
 
Laser mining platinum on a pristine metallic ring (metalic is always the best for laser mining). Platinum hotspots are common, and almost every rock inside a hotspot, even if just single, contains platinum, so it's quick to fill up. You'll also get lots of valuable byproducts while mining platinum, such as osmium. Also, platinum sell price is very reliable and doesn't change much, unlike painite that varies wildly in price.
 
Laser mining platinum on a pristine metallic ring (metalic is always the best for laser mining). Platinum hotspots are common, and almost every rock inside a hotspot, even if just single, contains platinum, so it's quick to fill up. You'll also get lots of valuable byproducts while mining platinum, such as osmium. Also, platinum sell price is very reliable and doesn't change much, unlike painite that varies wildly in price.
Good comment !
 
Thanks All for your observations so far... It's interesting seeing your experience with this mechanic.

The reason I ask is because I'm mining in the black while exploring in my FC. It gives me a break from exploration and gives me a reason to scan rings. Plus it will hopefully pay for some of the tritium too! 😉

I'm using a Vette + Biweave shield with 3 lasers plus the other three core tools. That way I can boost into a rock, fire off a limpet and mine it pretty quickly. It can hold 384t per run. It's a build that D2EA suggested for core mining with a few tweaks. I've found this to be better than the laser mining build Cutter.

I've mined in various ring types...

Initially, I was going for mats like Serendibite and Monzaite hotspots as these have high value. But I found these hotspots often contain other core mats and were actually hard to find the intended material that the hotspot was supposed to have, as in few in number of cores. The high price mats had a lower distribution in the ring hotspot than expected.

I switched to mining platinum hotspots in metallic rings as this can be mined from almost any rock in the hotspot and has a higher distribution than mats like Serendibite (core and laser mining). I was still finding other metallic mats but the main material was platinum by a large margin!

This got me thinking along the lines that it may be more profitable to mine cheaper materials if you can gather them twice as fast... And hence this post! I'm trying to ascertain whether other cmdrs have been having similar experience and whether the miners here know the fragment ratios per percent material for the different ring types. Are these the same.

The other issue is the hotspot distribution of the intended hotspot material... Not all hotspots are created equal!
Which has confused me about what the best mining mechanic (in the black with an FC) might be?
 
Why are you in such a rush to make credits? I'd suggest doing core mining if you enjoy it. Personally, I find it a lot less monotonous than pure laser mining even though it takes longer.
 
Why are you in such a rush to make credits? I'd suggest doing core mining if you enjoy it. Personally, I find it a lot less monotonous than pure laser mining even though it takes longer.

I'm not... My exploration account has about 13bn in cash, so I'm not short on a few coins.

But if I'm going to do some mining, I might as well make it credit efficient...
 
The reason I ask is because I'm mining in the black while exploring in my FC. It gives me a break from exploration and gives me a reason to scan rings. Plus it will hopefully pay for some of the tritium too! 😉
I mine in the black. It does depend on how much time and how far you are exploring, every ton of mined material stored in your carrier will reduce your total range but this can be offset by mining Tritium.

I carry with me 4 mining ships and one of my explorers an Aspx has also got basic mining ability, A Krait MkII set for Cores - speed + agility, A Python for SSD Tritium - The fastest way to mine it, and a couple off T9's, one for Icy, one for the rest.

I suggest always using the largest refinery you can carry in your miner or miner's, that way you do not have to flush your bins as often or at all. What's the cost of a mining ship or for that matter extra modules after all, and they don't cost any extra fuel or cargo to carry in your carrier.

Selling mined commodities, There are a variety of ways of selling and this is dependent on the type of material, where you are selling, the time you wish to expend and the profit you wish to make, this will also affect what is worthwhile to mine.

Straight selling to stations of the better priced materials can often incur the volume tax, it can sometimes be quicker to sell too another carrier or sell from your carrier, you may end up earning better this way. Its also a handy way to offload mainly core type material in the Colonia area. Mission boards, good money can be earned both popping back to your carrier to complete a bunch of mining missions and by selling in volume to other carriers this type of material, I am talking Bromellite, MMC's and occasionally Osmium, but keep an eye on INARA.

Core mining, probably the better earner especially on the outward part of an exploration trip, less weight for the carrier to haul, almost all are worth mining, but I do seem to find straight core mining boring. Don't fixate on one type off core, with enough refinery space take any that you find within a hotspot, when later selling a few hundred of each may be faster and easier than several thousand of one type.

SSD Tritium mining, Rat Catcher is the expert at this, Python is the ship, with practice and enough ammo it is the fastest way to mine Tritium, A lot of the glowies within a Tritium hotspot will have 3 or 4 SSD's, up to about 200t per hour is achievable with practice within a good single hotspot.

Laser mining, I do most of my mining in Metallic or Icy rings. It's where my T9's excel, sturdy, high capacity plodders.

Metallic because they give the fastest or the largest volume of materials plus the three P's, Plat, Plad and Painite with laser, you also get in very low volumes Tungsten, the only place I have found it apart from surface mining and is needed for SSDM refills in the field. I do not worry about the type of material mined, Silver, Samarium and above are all worth selling and the middling priced materials can be sold easily without attracting the volume tax.

Icy rings, I mainly laser mine for 3 materials, LTD's, Bromellite and Tritium, but I also take MMC's and Lithium Hydroxide as a bycatch, Bromellite is the best earner in Icy, a lot faster to mine than LTD's and 2 - 3 Brom equals 1 LTD selling wise, sells easier too, its always in good demand for straight selling, mission boards and other carriers, MMC's and Lithium Hydroxide are not worth as much but are easy sellers to other carriers for them to do mission board "sales", Jaques station mission board loves MMC's:)

Both of my T9's are equipped for handling Cores and the slower spinning SSD's, though I do not hunt them out, I just scan occasionally, keep my eye's open and take whatever I find.

Volumes wise Metallic rings have more good laser rocks than any other ring, I don't normally bother with metal or rocky for Laser mining less good rocks but both are a source of Gold, Silver, Osmium and one or two other metals, maximum percentage rock content is the same as metallic, Icy is the poor one, only up to 36% per rock instead of 66% for the others.

I mine for fun and relaxation rather than profit, but the advantage of using a carrier are great, you can mine where you want and what you want and the same goes for selling, if the price ain't right you can store it for another day.

Sorry if this is a bit long winded and does not directly answer your questions, but the way things can change around here an answer can be right one day and wrong the next, apart from that I like to make people think:)

Happy rock hunting, o7
 
Why are you in such a rush to make credits? I'd suggest doing core mining if you enjoy it. Personally, I find it a lot less monotonous than pure laser mining even though it takes longer.

I tried core mining, I did everything right, and I couldn't find a single core in a double Musgravite hotspot. Just flying around with the pulse-dopler held down looking for a needle in a haystack while making zero credits? Nah, no thanks. It would be one thing if the value of core materials were so very very high that it outweighed the tedium and RNG'ness so finding that core was super special and valuable. But since the mining nerf the sell prices for the stuff just doesn't make the investment in time worth it imo.

To the OP, I can reliably fill my Cutter to the light fixtures with Platinum. I can go to the ice and reliably fill it with Tritium and LTD's. But core mining? It's in a horrible state right now in my opinion and is a waste of time.
 
K Olley, how does one flush their refinery ?

I suggest always using the largest refinery you can carry in your miner or miner's, that way you do not have to flush your bins as often or at all. What's the cost of a mining ship or for that matter extra modules after all, and they don't cost any extra fuel or cargo to carry in your carrier.
 
K Olley, how does one flush their refinery ?
Right hand screen - inventory, down 1 to refinery, you can see what is in each bin, go right so that you are on that upward pointing arrow, if you press it it empties that bin.

If you are using a multi role ship whenever you remove the refinery from your ship the refinery is emptied, all bits are lost.
 
Right hand screen - inventory, down 1 to refinery, you can see what is in each bin, go right so that you are on that upward pointing arrow, if you press it it empties that bin.

If you are using a multi role ship whenever you remove the refinery from your ship the refinery is emptied, all bits are lost.

I got fed up with switching modules so I have dedicated ship builds now... So my refinery stays put in my mining ships ... And never gets emptied by removal.🙂

Simples 😂

We'll see whether Odyssey requires any new ship builds but I doubt it.
Edit: unless they introduce a new ship... Hint: P... C...
 
Laser mining platinum on a pristine metallic ring (metalic is always the best for laser mining). Platinum hotspots are common, and almost every rock inside a hotspot, even if just single, contains platinum, so it's quick to fill up. You'll also get lots of valuable byproducts while mining platinum, such as osmium. Also, platinum sell price is very reliable and doesn't change much, unlike painite that varies wildly in price.

Sad to say but it looks like your suggestion may be the best atm. 😔
I'm mining different hotspot types to get a feel for what works well. Painite and Platinum both mine fast.
The other hotspots seem to be very hit or miss with output.

Some of the high priced material hotspots may produce just one or two cores in a session (SSD/Laser Vette with 384t cargo which seems to be better than the higher capacity Laser only Cutter).
 
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OP, "Mapped Mining" (videos and threads on it) is probably the best bang for the buck I'd say if you can stand the tedium of it.
 
OP, "Mapped Mining" (videos on it) is probably the best bang for the buck I'd say if you can stand the tedium of it.

Sadly, no I can't lol... Sounds really dull.
But thank you for your suggestion! 🙂

🤔
I was looking for the best mining approach while in the black with an FC and different mining ships available...
So far it all seems a waste of time mining in the black...
 
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