Missing Planet?

[Scoob]

Hey all,

Not my issue, but that of a friend. We've been spending some time in the Khwal system, body A2 at Stein Port battling Thargoids. When I first scouted out this system for some potential AX combat, I bookmarked it, like you do. Now I just select that Bookmark and head there. Easy. My friend though - who's been with me on a number of occasions - cannot find it without me. If I'm in-game, we wing up and all is well, he follows my Wing Beacon thing. If I'm not online, the place doesn't exist for him. I mean that, there is no Body A2 let alone Stein Port. There's not even a Piccard Terminal (Orbital Outpost) as A2 doesn't exist for him.

He's of course checked on the System Map, but there's an empty spot where you'd expect to see the planet. Plus it's not listed in his Navigation panel either. What could possibly cause this? He's been in the system several times with me, he's honked the system for himself. I have no clue what might cause this.

Any ideas?

Just as I was about to post this he emailed me. Apparently he's using Multi-crew - using his Epic Account Commander for the extra PiP - I wonder if that might cause this obscure issue? Multi-crew can cause weirdness. We only tried it once with each other before it crashed. Game still says we were doing it for hours... not true, just a few minutes before it broke. Not tried it since.

(Sorta nice it's not ME with the weird problem for a change)

 

[Kira Goto]

Was he destroyed at some point after/during the visit to the system before handing in the cartographic data the game gives you for it?

If so, that just makes planets disappear even though they should be auto-marked as visible on the map and radar, even if 'Undiscovered', for pretty much anything within the Bubble (and outside if previously discovered by another player). This includes orbital stations around those planets iirc. I noticed the same thing a few times throughout my Thargoid war activities where (as one example) after an unplanned close-up of an enraged Thargon swarm from a Medusa or Hydra - aka the whole thing goes kamikaze at once - I found myself in a rebuy screen, and then after that systems I'd visited but not handed in "exploration" data for had planets and orbiting stations missing completely.

If it is instead a multicrew issue, then I don't know about it, never done it before.

 

[SlickPBW]

Don’t ask Obiwan, he lost a planet also!

 

[Scoob]

Was he destroyed at some point after/during the visit to the system before handing in the cartographic data the game gives you for it?

If so, that just makes planets disappear even though they should be auto-marked as visible on the map and radar, even if 'Undiscovered', for pretty much anything within the Bubble (and outside if previously discovered by another player). This includes orbital stations around those planets iirc. I noticed the same thing a few times throughout my Thargoid war activities where (as one example) after an unplanned close-up of an enraged Thargon swarm from a Medusa or Hydra - aka the whole thing goes kamikaze at once - I found myself in a rebuy screen, and then after that systems I'd visited but not handed in "exploration" data for had planets and orbiting stations missing completely.

If it is instead a multicrew issue, then I don't know about it, never done it before.

He was destroyed several times during our times there, but has subsequently returned intact since. We use Putana as a staging area, so fly out of there much of the time. I've not handed in any data on the system myself, I doubt he has either. I mean, once I discover a system, the data is retained even if I don't hand it in. I'd be odd if being destroyed caused one body to be deleted from the System Map. We've flown to this system numerous times now to fight Thargoids together. He should have all the same data as me surely.

I'm as confused as anyone about this. I mean, I've had the map not load properly at times when the servers are being flaky. Never had an entire planets going missing over multiple instances though.

 

[Fixitman]

ED is full of bugs, your friend may have found one. Unsold cartographic data should not be retained upon destruction.

Your friend should FSS the missing body, turn in the data, and see if it's still missing. That should take less time than these forum posts did.

If it's still missing, file a support request, or ignore it. That would bug the heck outta me, but some couldn't care less about something like that. It's all a matter of individual perspective.

 

[Kira Goto]

He was destroyed several times during our times there, but has subsequently returned intact since. We use Putana as a staging area, so fly out of there much of the time. I've not handed in any data on the system myself, I doubt he has either. I mean, once I discover a system, the data is retained even if I don't hand it in. I'd be odd if being destroyed caused one body to be deleted from the System Map. We've flown to this system numerous times now to fight Thargoids together. He should have all the same data as me surely.

I'm as confused as anyone about this. I mean, I've had the map not load properly at times when the servers are being flaky. Never had an entire planets going missing over multiple instances though.

Well, my understanding of it is that it's kind of a bug. The system map should be fully accessible with the bodies just not marked as "discovered" (aka with details available) but for some reason if you in a system within the Bubble (or unpopulated but discovered outside of it) get destroyed without handing in the "discovery" data of the system before that, it just gets nuked into oblivion and the game acts like the planet has not been located by anybody yet (which is obviously wrong). This also removes any orbiting station(s) from the map view.

Can't say about the nav panel. If he was repeatedly destroyed before handing in the data - which you don't usually bother to because, you're in the Bubble and it's kind of worthless payout-wise - then that could explain why the planet was always missing. As, I believe, it only then reappears for you when you scan it again or get close to it, something like that.

It may come in two flavors where either you have the body which you located missing, or a specific body you've only flown near remains marked on the map but everything else is absent. I notice this latter case particularly in Pegasi Sector IH-U b3-3 (Raijin's location) for my alt due to Thargoid-related mishaps elsewhere. When I drop into the Titan's location now only the ammonia world is visible on the radar, along with its star. None of the other worlds even though they should be present.

 

[Scoob]

ED is full of bugs, your friend may have found one. Unsold cartographic data should not be retained upon destruction.

Your friend should FSS the missing body, turn in the data, and see if it's still missing. That should take less time than these forum posts did.

If it's still missing, file a support request, or ignore it. That would bug the heck outta me, but some couldn't care less about something like that. It's all a matter of individual perspective.

Surely though, even if destroyed, when you come back to the system and honk, planets should be revealed just as before? That's all I did. Entered the system, honked and headed for Stein Port on A2. It's just weird it's that planet that's gone, the one out of all of them we've actually flown down to.

I'll suggest he scan the planet.... if he can find it without me lol. If not, he'll just have to follow me in.

As mentioned, I've had zero difficulties finding A2. Literally honk once (I've not been destroyed) and there it is. He arrives, honks and there's a GAP where the planet should be. Darn weird. Might get time to get in for a short while tomorrow, if he's about too, we'll see what happens.

Note: I was a little puzzled after our first time there when I said to bookmark Stein Port (I just had) and he said he couldn't... didn't think much of it at the time.

 

[Mako The Grey]

Surely though, even if destroyed, when you come back to the system and honk, planets should be revealed just as before? That's all I did. Entered the system, honked and headed for Stein Port on A2. It's just weird it's that planet that's gone, the one out of all of them we've actually flown down to.

I'll suggest he scan the planet.... if he can find it without me lol. If not, he'll just have to follow me in.

As mentioned, I've had zero difficulties finding A2. Literally honk once (I've not been destroyed) and there it is. He arrives, honks and there's a GAP where the planet should be. Darn weird. Might get time to get in for a short while tomorrow, if he's about too, we'll see what happens.

If he was killed before his data could be logged....then when he re-spawns his ships computer can no longer see it. To see it again...he just needs to use the FSS when he gets back to the system...then not get killed again before logging the data at a cartographer so it can be downloaded to his ship after the next re-spawn he experiences.
Been like that for a very very long time. It's why folks try hard not to get killed before returning to the bubble with lots of exploration data

 

[thistle]

I had a planet a few thousand ly outside the bubble I had been to numerous times but didn't bookmark it, went there last week and the planet wasn't there, just redid the fss scan and all was well. But can happen in the bubble also.

 

[Scoob]

If he was killed before his data could be logged....then when he re-spawns his ships computer can no longer see it. To see it again...he just needs to use the FSS when he gets back to the system...then not get killed again before logging the data at a cartographer so it can be downloaded to his ship after the next re-spawn he experiences.
Been like that for a very very long time. It's why folks try hard not to get killed before returning to the bubble with lots of exploration data

I was sure he'd been back there since his last death, perhaps not. Why would a regular honk not reveal the planet for him if it did originally. I.e. Enter system for the first time, honk, there it is, head to planet and shoot Thargoids. Later visit, after dying, enter system, honk, no planet shown. All I did was enter the system, honk, and there it was. I didn't even think about it.

To be clear, all it takes to reveal this planet and surface port is a simple honk after arriving, nothing more than that. Again, this hasn't happened to me, but a friend, it's just a bit weird that we can both perform the exact same action - i.e. enter the system and honk - yet for him there's a missing planet.

 

[DjVortex]

there's an empty spot where you'd expect to see the planet

You mean like this?

It happens sometimes. Extremely rarely, but sometimes.

 

[Scoob]

You mean like this?

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It happens sometimes. Extremely rarely, but sometimes.

Yes, that looks like what he's describing, but as I don't see it myself, I cannot 100% confirm.

We went in today to the same location and everything worked perfectly fine for him, the planet is there as expected. No honk or FSS required.

 

[Theolan Slevin]

You mean like this?

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It happens sometimes. Extremely rarely, but sometimes.

I've been seeing this quite a bit in different systems. Since a few game updates ago. I've ignored it until now thinking I need to give my PC some TLC or update some component or other. I even wondered if my security software running in the background was interfering with the game since I installed it around the time I started experiencing this. It hasn't interfered with my gameplay so I've just shrugged it off. I'll pay more attention to it.

 

[DjVortex]

I've been seeing this quite a bit in different systems. Since a few game updates ago. I've ignored it until now thinking I need to give my PC some TLC or update some component or other. I even wondered if my security software running in the background was interfering with the game since I installed it around the time I started experiencing this. It hasn't interfered with my gameplay so I've just shrugged it off. I'll pay more attention to it.

That screenshot is from January of 2023, so the bug has been there for quite a while. (And, in fact, I think some people reported that it has been there for quiet a lot longer than that.)

I have ever only seen it once (ie. when I took that screenshot).