Money & Phyton.

[Deadlytaste]

Before you read this. I know its Python and not Phyton. I just like it this way.

So as for now I still have got the 2 weeks 16% off for the phyton at Zaonce.

Now I want to know, how much $$$ I do need to make it good for bounty hunting. Ive got around 58 Million Cr now.

Anyone can help me out? Should I probaply farm a bit more?

btw I don't really care about trading or exploration that much. It's nice to have some cargo for trades now and than, but my focus is mainly on combat. I am pretty fine with my viper, but if I try to go do Assassination missions I usually won't beat em alone as a Viper.

(I don't like the Vulture, and I was going to wait for the courier)

so any hints? What should I focus on getting? And how much Cr should I have, also including insurance. Sometimes I could not watch and crash me. Did not happen for a while in my viper though got like 2 mil Federation credits at hold of bountys I did in empire/alliance systems.

 

[Sugarat]

140-160 mil for fully kitted Python. Buy the hull at a discount and park it till you have enough for upgrades.

 

[Angry Hornet]

Yuo mihgt wnat to chcek teh spelilng of teh Phyton.

 

[DidierDrbois]

90 mil for PvE. Plus rebuy.

 

[Deadlytaste]

140-160 mil for fully kitted Python. Buy the hull at a discount and park it till you have enough for upgrades.

Guess you are right, I proably should buy it and park it. But what makes the phyton so expensive? its like 2 times its usually price to mod it.

Yuo mihgt wnat to chcek teh spelilng of teh Phyton.

btw I wrote that I like the way I spell teh phyton

90 mil for PvE. Plus rebuy.

whats the rebuy for it ?

 

[Thalios Abraxas]

If you're a bit short on credits then i wouldn't touch the Python if i were you, especially if you're going to do some fighting with it.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's a great ship, it can be used as a fighter ship without trouble, but it needs some serious cash to make it happen. At least 100m+, mine is worth around 160m. So if you don't have that kind of money plus a couple insurance cost on the side, then don't fight with it. If you die, you're going to be so frustrated...

What you can do, is buy it, equip it for trade, and pile up the cash until you can upgrade it properly as a fighting ship.

That's my advice.

 

[talshiarr]

58 million won't be enough to do much but you can slap on a bunch of class 2 weapons and tread carefully in RES'es with smaller ships. You won't be having much fun until you can afford the big power distributor and shield though. Keeping your cash above the insurance cost will be the challenge.

 

[Deadlytaste]

If you're a bit short on credits then i wouldn't touch the Python if i were you, especially if you're going to do some fighting with it.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's a great ship, it can be used as a fighter ship without trouble, but it needs some serious cash to make it happen. At least 100m+, mine is worth around 160m. So if you don't have that kind of money plus a couple insurance cost on the side, then don't fight with it. If you die, you're going to be so frustrated...

What you can do, is buy it, equip it for trade, and pile up the cash until you can upgrade it properly as a fighting ship.

That's my advice.

what would you say by comparing viper and phyton? I do well with the Viper right now for Bounty hunting can do usually around 2 - 3 Million credits in 1-2h. (Im pretty lucky with RES spawns usually)

would it make hunting easier or harder? I mean I don't really die in my Viper anymore so would that change in the Phyton if it's not to well equpped?

58 million won't be enough to do much but you can slap on a bunch of class 2 weapons and tread carefully in RES'es with smaller ships. You won't be having much fun until you can afford the big power distributor and shield though. Keeping your cash above the insurance cost will be the challenge.

It's funny that as a Viper I seem to have a much easier time with the big ships in RES with just class 1/2 weapons.

 

[DidierDrbois]

whats the rebuy for it ?

Checkie here. 88.5 mil, 4.5 mil rebuy. Economy BH Python

 

[ChubbyBunneh]

About 80 million to put good weapons, best FSD, grade C power plant, D sensors-thrusters-lifesupport, and A power distributor.

 

[Angry Hornet]

Get this:

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=605,,2-9sA07_6uBaA08I,0AA0AA0AA08c08c7RA05U05U03w

And then trade grind with it for a few dollars more until you can kit it out for BH. That's what I did.

 

[Deadlytaste]

Checkie here. 88.5 mil, 4.5 mil rebuy. Economy BH Python

economy bh phyton XD ok seems legit. I guess I will try to focus on getting around 90 mil and build this one.

About 80 million to put good weapons, best FSD, grade C power plant, D sensors-thrusters-lifesupport, and A power distributor.

yeah guess I will do that, after some more bounty hunting with my viper or doing a CG with good profit.

Get this:

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=605,,2-9sA07_6uBaA08I,0AA0AA0AA08c08c7RA05U05U03w

And then trade grind with it for a few dollars more until you can kit it out for BH. That's what I did.

I don't really like trading. Guess I will bounty hunt or CG to there. Right now I will only buy the hull and keep on with my viper but thx

 

[Thalios Abraxas]

what would you say by comparing viper and phyton? I do well with the Viper right now for Bounty hunting can do usually around 2 - 3 Million credits in 1-2h. (Im pretty lucky with RES spawns usually)

would it make hunting easier or harder? I mean I don't really die in my Viper anymore so would that change in the Phyton if it's not to well equpped?

With an out of factory Python you're going to struggle, it's slow and rather big, your default shields are going to buckle fast, you'll have trouble maneuvering, you won't like it.

How about rare trading? There's that 70+ stop rare trade route, can make you about 3m/hour. It's a lot less boring than traditional trading and you'll have to be careful too because some of it is illegal, so you'll have the rush of smuggling too. That you could do with a stock python and an upgraded FSD + chaff(to delay the scanning procedure at the station entrances while smuggling).

If you really don't like the Vulture, what about the FDL? You can upgrade that one for a lot less cash than the Python. It's only good for fighting, but it does it really well ^.^

This is my current Python loadout, it's only for CZ/PvE in mind, but i can stay there for as long as i want, and that's all i ask really But, as you can see, it's quite expensive, even after i swapped my beams + canons for pulse + mc's.

 

[talshiarr]

It's funny that as a Viper I seem to have a much easier time with the big ships in RES with just class 1/2 weapons.

Of course, you're in a small ship with (I assume) a good power plant, distributor, and shields. My Vulture annihilates the bigger ships one on one, but until you get well past the stock E-class equipment the Python is going to lose its shields quickly and only be able to fire kinetic weapons in extended blasts. I recently got a Python as well and it's even faster once you can afford an A-class distributor and shields. The power plant can be kept at C-class unless you want all beam weapons. 25 MW will handle a ton of weapons, point defenses, and even a mid-grade auto repair kit.

 

[Deadlytaste]

With an out of factory Python you're going to struggle, it's slow and rather big, your default shields are going to buckle fast, you'll have trouble maneuvering, you won't like it.

How about rare trading? There's that 70+ stop rare trade route, can make you about 3m/hour. It's a lot less boring than traditional trading and you'll have to be careful too because some of it is illegal, so you'll have the rush of smuggling too. That you could do with a stock python and an upgraded FSD + chaff(to delay the scanning procedure at the station entrances while smuggling).

If you really don't like the Vulture, what about the FDL? You can upgrade that one for a lot less cash than the Python. It's only good for fighting, but it does it really well ^.^

I will think about rare trading maybe look for some guides.

But Idk about the FDL I was going to get it first, but right now I am not so sure. It seems way to expensive for just to be a fighter. I would rather wait to see the Courier and how it will handle battling. If its gonna be a smaller phyton or a better Viper than I won't even need to phyton up.

FDL and Phyton were only in my eye because they looked good. But I want good looks & quality.

 

[Draxxen]

Congrats on your Phyton!
I absolutely love mine

This is my suggested minimum, and will give you huge sustained dps with minimum power draw and hardpoint cost. Even without the cannons you will be fine to begin with.
A grade FSD is optional, but recommended due to low jumprange. The A graded shield generator is absolutely recommended, but you can start out with lower if you need to. A shield cell bank is a good option.
The 6A power plant is enough to run this setup; no need for the 7A. When you can afford the 7A, you can add some more/better shield cell banks and some shield boosters and such.
..so that is about 50M in upgrades, I'm afraid.

Grats again!

 

[talshiarr]

I personally didn't like the maneuverability loss going to the FDL after flying the Vulture and Viper. The Python is in between a Viper and FDL.

 

[Thalios Abraxas]

I will think about rare trading maybe look for some guides.

But Idk about the FDL I was going to get it first, but right now I am not so sure. It seems way to expensive for just to be a fighter. I would rather wait to see the Courier and how it will handle battling. If its gonna be a smaller phyton or a better Viper than I won't even need to phyton up.

FDL and Phyton were only in my eye because they looked good. But I want good looks & quality.

I see. Well, to make it simple, if you want a Python now, with your current assets, you'd really be better off doing some kind of trading until you can upgrade it properly. Or leave it in the hangar for now and keep on bounty hunting with the viper until you have enough cash. The Python needs some serious investments to make it shine, there's no way around it really.

 

[Deadlytaste]

I personally didn't like the maneuverability loss going to the FDL after flying the Vulture and Viper. The Python is in between a Viper and FDL.

Yeah I love the maneuverability of the Viper. It can nicly stay close at a Anaconda/Phyton Powerplant, without getting into most of its fire range. I hope the courier will have that maneuverablity

I see. Well, to make it simple, if you want a Python now, with your current assets, you'd really be better off doing some kind of trading until you can upgrade it properly. Or leave it in the hangar for now and keep on bounty hunting with the viper until you have enough cash. The Python needs some serious investments to make it shine, there's no way around it really.

yes that is probalby the best way to handle things right now. I will just buy it like an unfinished Car, and start calling for the pimp my ride ~

thx for your advice though.

 

[DrakeAurum]

About 80 million to put good weapons, best FSD, grade C power plant, D sensors-thrusters-lifesupport, and A power distributor.

That's where mine is at now, and it does just fine in RES and CZ. The only downside is that it overheats easily when firing beam lasers - I'm looking forward to having the extra cash to bump up the power plant to B or A.