Moons missing .

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tyros

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Hi
can anyone tell me where the moons are in the hundred s of systems i have visited
Since i started playing in early beta.
are we in a different galaxy to the one i live in.
because the galaxy i live in,most large planet size bodies have Moons .
Sol has the only moons i have seen in this game. there maybe a few more 'drawn systems'
i have not seen .but hundreds and hundreds of systems visited. No Moons.
How can this be a space sim with no moons.and for that matter ,why are there no moons.
Just how hard are they to draw.why leave them out.has no one else noticed.
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nexxo

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Yup. No moons at all. :p
 
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Lobstris

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To be fair there aren't many moons in game. Frontier and FFE seemed to allow more moons around bodies. And compare E: D's gas giants to SpaceEngine's. Or reality's. ;)
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There definitely aren't *NO* moons in E: D though. :)
 
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tyros

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Have not seen any my self and the picture shows an icy world
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Yup. No moons at all. ...............take a closer look .its a world
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nexxo

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I disagree. A moon, per astronomical definition, is the natural satellite of a planet. It doesn't say that it cannot be an ice world too.

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Seriously, you haven't been looking.
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Space Engine is really cool. It has also been in production for 4 years. When it encompasses a MMO dogfighting/trading sim I'll be very impressed.
 
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Carradin

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nexxo said:
I disagree:
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Good god, which system is that? I've done my share of exploring, but I've never seen one with quite that many orbiting bodies around the same sun (much less double up around two suns, like here). Nice find, commander!
 
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Lobstris

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I wonder if a lot of moons are 'there' in E: D, but a size cut-off is applied? [Yeah, Nexxo, your shot shows lots of moons, but Jupiter or Saturn alone have a similar number to all of those planets combined, though admittedly some are a tad on t'small side].
 

Spanksh

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tyros said:
Have not seen any my self and the picture shows an icy world
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I think this is not a matter of if there are moons but rather a question of terminology. There is only ONE moon in the entire universe and that is Earths primary natural satellite. Moons, as we commonly call them are actually natural satellites, which are all (natural) bodies circling a planetary object (please don't quote this, it's just a rough description). Every "moon" is a planet, dwarf planet, large asteroid etc. The only distinction is a matter of size, composition and what it is primarily flying around. E.g. we normally don't call planets orbiting a sun "moons", even though they technically are satellites.

Simply put, every planet, which has some other planetary body circling it has a "moon" or rather satellite. The Moon is technically a planet (or dwarf planet) as well.
 
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tyros

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Moons can be icy planets though
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Lol a planet is a planet and is called a planet for a good reason... its a planet.
are the gas giants also moons.what about asteroids are they moons as well...
There are tons of moons in the game, except they are called planets
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in the description. Any planet orbiting another planet is a moon.
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LOL please stop LOL .
you will be telling me the Bases are moons next...
 

nexxo

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Lobstris said:
I wonder if a lot of moons are 'there' in E: D, but a size cut-off is applied? [Yeah, Nexxo, your shot shows lots of moons, but Jupiter or Saturn alone have a similar number to all of those planets combined, though admittedly some are a tad on t'small side].
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I assume that the game has its limitations. Technically each system should have planetoids, a Kuyper belt, an Oort cloud and a truck load of comets whizzing about. Try modelling all that stuff. That Stellar Forge is going to need a lot more memory...
 

ZeeWolf

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tyros said:
Lol a planet is a planet and is called a planet for a good reason... its a planet.
are the gas giants also moons.what about asteroids are they moons as well... LOL please stop LOL .
you will be telling me the Bases are moons next...
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So is your issue the description now? Because, I thought you were talking about lack of Moons in the game? So it's not that, it's that the description calls them planets that's now the issue?

If it orbits another planet rather than the local star what is it?
 
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Spanksh

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tyros said:
Lol a planet is a planet and is called a planet for a good reason... its a planet.
are the gas giants also moons.what about asteroids are they moons as well... LOL please stop LOL .
you will be telling me the Bases are moons next...
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To repeat myself. Before laughing at others, start to realize that "the Moon" is ONE SINGLE object in existence. There are no moons (plural). It's natural satellites. So to answer your question "where the moons are" IT (not they) is flying around earth, where it should be. You started with using "moons" instead of natural satellites, and when using this loose meaning of the word, yes every planet circling ANYTHING natural is a "moon".


It's the same as saying "where are all the suns in the galaxy". Well there is only one sun. Sun-like objects are stars. Not suns. And moon-like objects are simply planets orbiting other planets.
 
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Carradin

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tyros said:
Lol a planet is a planet and is called a planet for a good reason... its a planet.
are the gas giants also moons.what about asteroids are they moons as well... LOL please stop LOL .
you will be telling me the Bases are moons next...
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The only difference between a planet and a planet-sized moon (such as THE Moon, which is large enough that it would be considered a planet on its own right if it were, say, in Pluto's location), is whether the barycenter (the gravitational center of rotation) between the planet and the supposed moon is below the surface of the larger body or not. If it's below the surface, as is the case with the Earth/Moon system, you have a moon. If it's above the surface, you have a double planet. Source: I teach physics for a living.

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To repeat myself. Before laughing at others, start to realize that "the Moon" is ONE SINGLE object in existence. There are no moons (plural). It's natural satellites. So to answer your question "where the moons are" IT (not they) is flying around earth, where it should be. You started with using "moons" instead of natural satellites, and when using this loose meaning of the word, yes every planet circling ANYTHING natural is a "moon".
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That's a bit pedantic. As someone who teaches this stuff, I appreciate accuracy, but honestly noone goes around calling them "natural satellites", so the term moon is fine when used as a description. Just don't capitalize it, since then it would be a name and, indeed, THE Moon. Use natural satellite if you're editing Wikipedia or writing a paper, use moon everywhere else. There's a reason noone's ever heard of the Galilean Natural Satellites around Jupiter ;) [/Edit]
 
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Lobstris

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nexxo said:
I assume that the game has its limitations. Technically each system should have planetoids, a Kuyper belt, an Oort cloud and a truck load of comets whizzing about. Try modelling all that stuff. That Stellar Forge is going to need a lot more memory...
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Yeah, I know you'd have to draw the line at the Oort cloud - modelling ,000s of bodies could get a bit tricky. I wonder how expandable the system already is though, and how many things are actually 'in-game', but not graphically represented yet. I'm sure Mr Brookes mentioned comets were in some time ago.
 
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