more mixed habitats? maybe hippos and flamingos?

not ignoring you but neither you or I know the truth it is hard to prove a positive (it can be done)it impossible to prove a negative (it cant be done) - yes it may be daft putting peafowl and antelope together but so is deep frying a mars bar and some people like that. who are we to tell people what they can have in a zoo? I have thought of trying a tortoise and a peafowl together in my "Gardens" as people can walk through both areas - wish Id tried it in beta but wouldn't have believed it anyway. will be trying it in the game
there is nothing to prove, its a game feature, i didnt invent it, its already there.
 
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ok to show Im not ignoring you and to allow me to offer a full apology for doubting you - where is the proof? where is it which video which developer quoting it. The only bit ive see that could be an argument for is the zoopedia states "Compatible species - <species. will be enriched by sharing their habitat with these animals" - word for word copy from zoopedia that's not the only species they can share with to me but the only species that will enrich them. Only time I have heard frontier talk about it is in these terms and very specifically. it doesn't matter if species don't match at all - so long as they wont kill each other or negagtively enrich they why not??
 
so your whole point is just, that you dont believe, that people played the beta? or in general, that people might know more than you (seems to be very easy)?
here is a saved zoopedia for the indian stuff from
Sirlacker: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/biu3ypilxgblqeo/AADbTfSf3xlct_WlgFcB65yQa/Habitat Animal Information/Indian Elephant?dl=0&preview=Indian+Elephant+Interspecies+Enrichment.png&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
I just dont know why you are arguing completely needlessly, it wasnt in question, everybody did it, there are hundreds of videos on youtube, where people mixed the said groups and looked it up in the zoopedia before (beam, deladysigner, bestinslot, paulsley, geekism, spielbaer, rudirennkamel).
 
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all you've shown me is my exact post which says these animals can "enrich each other" that's a different phrase to "can live with each other" thats the argument you arent getting

Enrich = equal live with but not enrich does not = cant live with

There was also so much missing in beta or has been messed about with that I can tell you is plain wrong by comparison to other videos that I feel you cant trust anything in Beta
 
all you've shown me is my exact post which says these animals can "enrich each other" that's a different phrase to "can live with each other" thats the argument you arent getting

Enrich = equal live with but not enrich does not = cant live with

There was also so much missing in beta or has been messed about with that I can tell you is plain wrong by comparison to other videos that I feel you cant trust anything in Beta
Exactly my point.
The shown screenshot only supports my previous post: That the Zoopedia list only gives us information about whether animals enrich each other (bonus to enrichment need) or not. The Zoopedia page is called "Interspecies enrichment" for a reason.
 
Even if animals don't enrich each other you can put them together.You can combine several different species,if you just go by logical thinking.The interspecies enrichment is just a bonus.For example you shouldn't have a lion + zebra enclosure,but you can combine pronghorns with springboks or tortoises with peafowl and they won't harm each other,even if they are not listed under the enrichment tab in the zoopedia - although I personally don't like the pronghorn + springbok combination,because one animal is from America and the other one from Africa.Another example would be a springbok and gemsbok enclosure,which works perfectly fine.Both animals are from Africa and coexist in some parts of the continent,but don't have each other in the zoopedia's interspecies enrichment tab.
 
Even if animals don't enrich each other you can put them together.You can combine several different species,if you just go by logical thinking.The interspecies enrichment is just a bonus.For example you shouldn't have a lion + zebra enclosure,but you can combine pronghorns with springboks or tortoises with peafowl and they won't harm each other,even if they are not listed under the enrichment tab in the zoopedia - although I personally don't like the pronghorn + springbok combination,because one animal is from America and the other one from Africa.Another example would be a springbok and gemsbok enclosure,which works perfectly fine.Both animals are from Africa and coexist in some parts of the continent,but don't have each other in the zoopedia's interspecies enrichment tab.
to be fair to Alex and others - we also don't know that unless you have proven it with every animal vs very animal in every condition ( male female groups adults kids etc ) what we know is some animal might enrich others - fact gained from zoopedia. What we suspect is that other similar Genus animals may be able to live with each other even if they don't enrich each other - what we don't know is if they negatively enrich each other ( and that may have been turned off in Beta so cant use beta as proof - plenty of other stuff was turned off that we know about) - we will only know in 8 days time or so
 
We actually know that animals can live together that do not enrich each other. A famous example is Ringtailed Lemurs and A. Tortoise. Rudi Rennkamel did it, I did Tortoise and Peafowl. Works fine as well.
 
to be fair to Alex and others - we also don't know that unless you have proven it with every animal vs very animal in every condition ( male female groups adults kids etc ) what we know is some animal might enrich others - fact gained from zoopedia. What we suspect is that other similar Genus animals may be able to live with each other even if they don't enrich each other - what we don't know is if they negatively enrich each other ( and that may have been turned off in Beta so cant use beta as proof - plenty of other stuff was turned off that we know about) - we will only know in 8 days time or so

There is acually no point in proving it with every single animal,because you can sort some species out with thinking a bit for yourself.You shouldn't combine large carnivores with other large carnivores and generally speaking different animals from different continents.
All of my mentioned examples (and some more combinations) are tested by me and ran through the whole beta period without any issues.(despite animals not being in each other's enrichment tab etc.)
It's clear,that the system wasn't fully fledged out for the beta,but you get the point.
 
we know it works in beta, plenty of stuff was turned off in Beta we don't know that this was or wasnt im afraid.

Things we know from beta that was turned off or heavily changed that will have a significant affect on gameplay

Taxes - Not on
Research - Golden Posion Frog video shows it working very differently
Animal CC Costs - golden poison frog video suggests that CC was scaled down by a factor of about 100

there is a list as long as my arm that I suspect could have been turned off or turned down- this is one of them

Beta was no about testing game mechanics it was more about testing how it worked in with a large amount of online users. put it this way if you want to know if peafowl and tortoise get along you didn't need to do it in beta - joe bloggs QA tester can prove this on his own why waste time letting us test it in Beta they already know it works properly be that yes or no
 
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we know it works in beta, plenty of stuff was turned off in Beta we don't know that this was or wasnt im afraid.

Things we know from beta that was turned off or heavily changed that will have a significant affect on gameplay

Taxes - Not on
Research - Golden Posion Frog video shows it working very differently
Animal CC Costs - golden poison frog video suggests that CC was scaled down by a factor of about 100

there is a list as long as my arm that I suspect could have been turned off or turned down- this is one of them

Beta was no about testing game mechanics it was more about testing how it worked in with a large amount of online users. put it this way if you want to know if peafowl and tortoise get along you didn't need to do it in beta - joe bloggs QA tester can prove this on his own why waste time letting us test it in Beta they already know it works properly be that yes or no
guess the question would be why they would turn this ability off for the full game and logically why they would restrict it when many combinations happen in real life.
It will be interesting to see when they 'turn on' more social interactions whether that will include cross-species interactions because then I suppose fights between species that are not predator / prey might happen.

We do know that a very basic level it is likely that there won't be a technical issue in doing it as predation is a thing.

I'd be surprised if they didn't allow it so some species ignore each other but I guess we won't know for certain for another week.
 
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